Tannehill changing how he attacks deep throws

[CRAZYDOLFAN305]

What a misplaced emphasis. The passing game would be so much better if Tannehill were simply allowed to roam the field more instead of hanging out in the pocket all day. Those downfield throws would happen more often, and would hinge far less on perfect timing to be executed. His YPA would go up, and his sacks would go way down.

Instead we're farting around talking about what he has to do from the pocket to achieve perfect timing with somebody downfield, as though that's the main problem here.

The problem is that this guy is severely miscast in a pocket passing offense.

We shall see when bombs start dropping..

 

[hoops]

Completely disagree.

it's a timing based offense he's a timing based qb...you should disagree

 

[Phantom]

I'm worried about a QB having to think and plan about throwing deep to open guys, instead of it just being a natural thing.

I think that part of having the "it" factor. Feeling things before they happen, or while its happening, instead of waiting, which results in missing opportunities. It's a game, let go and play it !!!

 

[zach attach]

You're going to see incomplete overthrows now, like you saw in the Browns game. When you overthrow a deep pass, the receiver has no chance to make a play, whereas an underthrow gives him a shot.

The fact that we're even having this conversation is a testament to what a ****ty effort Mike Wallace is giving on these throws.

That's why Philbin said to put some more air under it. Throw it, not like a laser, but let Mike go get it, and he will.

 

[zach attach]

I've been saying since camp that Tanny to Wallace was not there. I was told to quiet down and start the season. Well here we are. Still no chemistry.
Solutions: Bring in a special deep ball consultant (Marino?) to teach what Zach Taylor can't.

Let Tanny run! So much is being said about Cam Newtons ability to run and make chunk yardage. Why isn't our ex-wide receiver with wr speed not doing this!?

 

[NCFINFAN13]

Roethlisberger made his living with Wallace by extending plays and throwing to Wallace downfield when he was wide open, after he'd broken coverage. While of course you want to be as proficient as possible on the deep passes from the pocket, and you want to work on those, as well, I don't think you want to limit yourself to those and exclude the vast opportunity available on passes that stem from the quarterback's movement out of the pocket. This team seems to emphasize pocket passing so much that it doesn't see that other opportunity right under its eyes, with Tannehill's ability to scramble and throw accurately downfield on the move.

We have a Russell Wilson type guy out there, and we're making him play like Drew Bledsoe.

He has to be proficient at both. Every long ball can't be because he's extending the play. The sooner he gets throwing long from the pocket, then better. But, yes of course play extension has to be part of the total package.

 

[WVDolphan]

What a misplaced emphasis. The passing game would be so much better if Tannehill were simply allowed to roam the field more instead of hanging out in the pocket all day. Those downfield throws would happen more often, and would hinge far less on perfect timing to be executed. His YPA would go up, and his sacks would go way down.

Instead we're farting around talking about what he has to do from the pocket to achieve perfect timing with somebody downfield, as though that's the main problem here.

The problem is that this guy is severely miscast in a pocket passing offense.

The problem is that he is severely miscast as an NFL QB.

 

[Vaark]

The problem is that he is severely miscast as an NFL QB.

That's your opinion. Mine with a greater evidentiary sampling since everything is relative is "not as much as Melty is miscast as a postseason QB" :idk:

 

[J. David Wannyheimer]

That's why Philbin said to put some more air under it. Throw it, not like a laser, but let Mike go get it, and he will.

They need to make more attempts. Someone posted the play by play breakdown CK did of it. In ten games, only ten gradable deep balls? Why on earth do you pay a guy 60 million dollars if you aren't even going to use him?

You got a second year QB who only started like a season and a half in college. Even Joe Philbin has mentioned that the biggest thing he can do to improve is get more reps. Deep ball timing with Wallace is a problem, so what do we do? We don't even try.

Dumb, dumb, dumb.

 

[MD]

That's your opinion. Mine with a greater evidentiary sampling since everything is relative is "not as much as Melty is miscast as a postseason QB" :idk:

Now that his weapons are depleted, Melty is JAG.

 

[J. David Wannyheimer]

This game vs Carolina is the perfect opportunity to just start throwing bombs and see what happens. Get some practice in a game situation.

We aren't going to run on them, and we aren't going to win dinking and dunking. We'll struggle to throw into the middle of the field against Kuechly. It's our least important game left, an inter-conference matchup. Perfect opportunity. I fully expect a gameplan that involves a lot of 6 yard curls, though.



By the way, this is something worth mentioning: Robert Griffin threw his receivers and team under the bus the other day after a Redskins loss, blaming Moss (I think?) for an interception. Turned into a big story and caused some unneeded drama for the Redskins. Tannehill took full responsibility for the deep ball issues, saying that they were all on him. So, good for him.

 

[dolpns13]

Talk about not being real smart. Check out what this jackass wrote.



Being conservative on the football field is a matter of confidence not accuracy, and Mr Tanne has neither. You can beat this thing to death but in the end Tanne isn't the franchise QB. He simply doesn't have the talent, he's not real smart. I mean, how many times does he have to get sacked because he holds the ball and won't throw out of bounds? Why doesn't he know when to run? This game is to fast for him and he's not making any progress, he's worse this yr then last. One TD pass to Wallace in 10 games is rather telling. At 5-5 maybe its time to sit him down and let him see whats going on. The Dolphins might have a grip but it aint on the playoffs, thats to funny to be taken realistic. " Oh boy we're 5-5 and off to the playoffs " DuuuHHH.

Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolp...how-he-attacks-deep-throws.html#storylink=cpy

 

[DolfanISS]

His deep ball just needs to be thrown earlier
If he throws it even a second earlier Wallace is still open
He is waiting on wWllace to beat his man it to late then

This I agree with 100%. I see other QB's almost make a quick long throw early and let their guy run under it. Seem like when Tanny throws it Wallace has already broken open. When you see the man to man let her rip and see if Wallace can get there before the DB. I have major doubts it will happen, because it hasn't happened yet, but these 2 guys heating up would do wonders for the remainder of our season.

 

[Canadi-Phin]

I've been saying this since the first few games. He has to start throwing to a spot deep and stop trying to hit Wallace exactly. If he does put more air under it and throws to a 5 by 5 section of the field Wallace will have the ability to track those plays. Also if he lets it fly the chances of an Int are less because Wallace is the one going to get there. This week is the perfect time to do this as the Panthers DBs are not that great. I've said on other forums our best chance to win is each of our receivers has about 8 catches each. Wallace, Hartline and Matthews. Their LBs can cover our TEs and RBs but their dbs against two good vets and then a pretty good slot receiver are going to have a tough day. If we can give Tannehill just enough time but also throw in lots of WR screens like the Pats did we will see some good retruns on these plays. Some nice quick double moves as well. These guys are very aggressive because of their defensive front, use that against them.

 

[One Love]

Best thread I've read in a while. Unfortunately it's a little late to be giving tanny this advice but hey at least Philbin isn't giving the same treatment (fear mongering) Sparano gave to Henne.