Tannehill has completed 44.1% of his deepballs in his 2 yrs but only 23% to Wallace

[Elle Clouds]

Just over throw him... if I see another under throw, I wouldn't mind if Mike Wallace went over and screamed at Tannehill. Wake this kid up and learn to throw the ball out there...

 

[Heinegrabber]

Just over throw him... if I see another under throw, I wouldn't mind if Mike Wallace went over and screamed at Tannehill. Wake this kid up and learn to throw the ball out there...

I said something similar when he threw the INT. The play prior the INT was dropped. He needs to be accountable for repetitive mistakes.

 

[Perfect23]

I just feel that Tannehill is scared of overthrowing Wallace therefore just thinking about it to much instead of just letting it flow.

 

[mega-fin-love]

Bombs and long passes are not the same thing. Tannehill does a lot better wtih the 20+ yard throws...but he sucks at the 30+ yard fly routes to Wallace. Or anyone for that matter.

 

[fakespike]

The RT to Wallace deep throws have been disconcerting, but tbh I think that, in time, RT will get a feel for Wallace's game speed. He has the arm to throw it as far as he wants, he just needs to get to the point where it's subconscious.

 

[Hayden Fox]

RT is not accurate on his deep ball. To argue otherwise is silly. He needs to get better at it.

 

[Shouright]

Pro Football Focus.

Accuracy = Catches + Drops.

He's 4 of 17 (23.5%) to Wallace, 16 of 33 (48.4%) to Hartline, 14 of 35 (40.0%) to everyone else. If you smush together Hartline with everyone else he's 30 of 68 (44.1%) when he's not throwing to Wallace.

Might that be because, while all of theses passes are at least 20 yards in the air, the ones to Wallace are significantly farther on average than the ones to the other players?

 

[russianbear]

Might that be because, while all of theses passes are at least 20 yards in the air, the ones to Wallace are significantly farther on average than the ones to the other players?

I would agree with this. Any way we can determine what the percentage of balls traveling 30+ yards? I think that would help thin it out...

 

[So Be]

If a QB hits on 50% or more (including drops), he has an exceptional year. Only 3 QB did it last year, Rodgers, Peyton, and Newton. This year there are only 2 in Rodgers and Wilson.

Last year Tannehill hit 22 of 51 (including 2 drops). IF you believe he should hit 50%, 25 throws should have been incomplete. When you add this to the 22 passes he hit on, it would leave FOUR passes during the year to be questioned.

This year Tannehill hit 12 of 34 (including 3 drops), 17 should be incomplete. Added together, it would leave FIVE passes over 10 games to be questioned.

One may consider the WR's from last year, and the sacks along with some mistakes from Wallace this year or, question NINE passes over 26 games if you believe Tannehill should be exceptional in his second year on deep throws with this team.

 

[ckparrothead]

Might that be because, while all of theses passes are at least 20 yards in the air, the ones to Wallace are significantly farther on average than the ones to the other players?

It might be. There's no way to check because receivers don't have target data broken out by 30+ or 40+ yard depths. Tannehill's lone completion when throwing 40+ yards down the field is to Wallace. But his completion percentage (1 out of 6) on balls thrown 40+ yards down the field is not egregious or anything, especially for such a SMALL sample size. For example, Tom Brady has only completed 2 of 22 passes at 40+ yards from 2010 to 2013. Joe Flacco is 11 of 53 over the same time period.

 

[broccoli rob]

I think a lot of it is due to Tannehill's lack of trust in the line's protection. Gotta give Tannehill + Wallace another year at least with improved line play.

 

[So Be]

RT has 4 Int's throwing deep to Wallace. Does anyone remember who was at fault, and/or if a couple of those were Hail Marys?

 

[enigmatics]

Anything over 20 yards to be exact.

I've never understood why a "deep" ball is considered 20 yards minimum. That's like a flick of the wrist for most of these guys.

From what I've seen of him, he's been relatively poor in connecting 30 yards or longer. Kid doesn't drop passes in the window with a high arc.

 

[ckparrothead]

RT has 4 Int's throwing deep to Wallace. Does anyone remember who was at fault, and/or if a couple of those were Hail Marys?

Two of them were hail mary throws. I do recall that much.

 

[ckparrothead]

I've never understood why a "deep" ball is considered 20 yards minimum. That's like a flick of the wrist for most of these guys.

From what I've seen of him, he's been relatively poor in connecting 30 yards or longer. Kid doesn't drop passes in the window with a high arc.

The arc thing is overblown. It's actually kind of confusing because considering the evaluation work I do, more often than not I hear scouts CRITICIZING players for having high arc on their deep passes (which means they float, take a long time to come down). But here we are with Tannehill and for some reason a multitude of fans think he should be floating these deep passes.

Don't know about the "flick of the wrist" argument because 20 yards beyond the line of scrimmage does not necessarily mean a 20 yard throw. If the throw is outside the numbers, most often it means a 30-35 yard throw (measured in a straight line) and that's a good sized throw. It's not easy to be accurate at that depth. It's something you have to key on with college players coming out to see if they have the ability to throw at NFL distances.

If it's 20 yards down the field and over the middle that could be a 25 yard throw or so and that's not that big a deal. It's a bread and butter throw. I've often wondered if PFF shouldn't break out a fourth level at 30+ yards. I hear what you're saying there.