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phins_4_ever said:
WR personnel is one thing. You do need to hit them in stride as well. Bending backwards to catch a pass will not get you YAC.
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This is true, and I agree with you. However, do you really think that Charles Clay on one knee is going to have the same kind of success as Sproles or LeSean McCoy on those plays?

I think this team needs to stop throwing passes behind the line of scrimmage.
 
J. David Wannyheimer said:
I don't like these comparisons but here is a crazy statistic I just saw:

Foles had 331 yards passing tonight. 233 were from YAC. That's insane. That's... impressive.

I think that's what our offense is trying to do with the dinky screen passes. The difference is that we don't have LeSean McCoy and Darren Sproles, and a freakishly good downfield blocking OL.
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McCoy's Y/C is 3.7; Miller's is 4.8
McCoy's YAC is 4.8; Miller's is 6.0

Sprole's YAC is 2.4.

The only category Miller is beaten is in Y/C in compariosn with Sproles (6.0).
 
phins_4_ever said:
McCoy's Y/C is 3.7; Miller's is 4.8
McCoy's YAC is 4.8; Miller's is 6.0

Sprole's YAC is 2.4.

The only category Miller is beaten is in Y/C in compariosn with Sproles (6.0).
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That's this season, yeah? Okay, I concede the point that statistically, Lamar Miller is good after the catch. I was mostly thinking of Charles Clay and how we kept throwing him those little dink passes that went nowhere.

I think you might be on to something there. Maybe instead of asking Lamar Miller to run actual pass routes (where he drops balls and alligator arms 'em) we should just use him on those rinky dink screen passes.
 
J. David Wannyheimer said:
I think only a vocal minority of players were happy to see Reggie go. Most of us remember how he TOOK OVER some games in 2011 and 2012 and those days just happened to coincide with the days that Miami put 30+ points on the board.

Makes you think.
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I wonder if there was more behind the scenes that led to our FO apathy toward him?
 
EvilDylan said:
Dude, do yourself a favor and shut the **** up. You're acting like a raving lunatic.
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I remember you from last year too, RT SUCKS, so cry about it or curse me out to make yourself feel better, I was right last year and you should stand corrected, as I put all you homers in your place, im not here to make friends, im here to show you all the truth.

Just because a guy is nice, has a hot wife, a military buzzcut, that does not make him an NFL starting QB, no matter how many shooting stars you wish upon. Unfortunate? Sure, but the reality is RT will never be a top 10 QB. His best year I could see him as a #16-20 QB in the league, unfortunately, I do not see that being this year.
 
shamegame13 said:
I remember you from last year too, RT SUCKS, so cry about it or curse me out to make yourself feel better, I was right last year and you should stand corrected, as I put all you homers in your place, im not here to make friends, im here to show you all the truth.

Just because a guy is nice, has a hot wife, a military buzzcut, that does not make him an NFL starting QB, no matter how many shooting stars you wish upon. Unfortunate? Sure, but the reality is RT will never be a top 10 QB. His best year I could see him as a #16-20 QB in the league, unfortunately, I do not see that being this year.
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No man, you're just acting like a complete buffoon.

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EvilDylan said:
No man, you're just acting like a complete buffoon.

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Im sorry, you either gotta be young or a female, im sorry if my alpha dog personality hurt your feelings bud... make sure you get tucked into bed properly tonight and read your Dr. Suess book. Just because I share different beliefs on the Dolphins doesn't make me a buffoon. I could call you a buffoon as well for starting the whole name calling thing like were 4 years old. A person knows their right on a subject (whatever that subject might be) when you start calling people rude names and provide NOTHING to a debate.
 
3 tds on gift wrapped play action goal line plays like luck had is not something to really pimp...that said his intangibles and pocket presence is off the charts...really his best traits...cause he missed a bunch of throws with poor placement or accuracy in the first half the other night...something i see him do a lot of frankly

as for the pick i stopped the dvr to see if the ball was out of hand i got still shot of ball in hand and hilton going to ground already and that was absolutely in the 5 yard zone...would i like to have that call absolutely i would do i think it's a concrete penalty given the ball was in his hand still no i don't

foles has mastered that philly offense but he's a system qb...said it last year saying it today...the star is the system in that offense...that the tempo the oline mccoy and ertz who is legit...riley cooper gets away with some extended arm play early in vertical routes...how he gets "separation"

rg3 is garbage...games entirely to contact...

both the eagles and colts have taken what miami should to score more points...really fast tempo on offense...
 
hooshoops said:
3 tds on gift wrapped play action goal line plays like luck had is not something to really pimp...that said his intangibles and pocket presence is off the charts...really his best traits...cause he missed a bunch of throws with poor placement or accuracy in the first half the other night

as for the pick i stopped the dvr to see if the ball was out of hand i got still shot of ball in hand and hilton going to ground already and that was absolutely in the 5 yard zone...would i like to have that call absolutely i would do i think it's a concrete penalty given the ball was in his hand still no i don't

foles has mastered that philly offense but he's a system qb...said it last year saying it today...the star is the system in that offense...that the tempo the oline mccoy and ertz who is legit...riley cooper gets away with some extended arm play early in vertical routes...how he gets "separation"

rg3 is garbage...games entirely to contact...

i hope i cleared this up for you guys
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You can come up with all the obscure stats or outlooks that you want, fact is, the other QBs are getting the job done and ours isn't, for 3 years our QB has looked average with no progress.
 
shamegame13 said:
Im sorry, you either gotta be young or a female, im sorry if my alpha dog personality hurt your feelings bud... make sure you get tucked into bed properly tonight and read your Dr. Suess book. Just because I share different beliefs on the Dolphins doesn't make me a buffoon. I could call you a buffoon as well for starting the whole name calling thing like were 4 years old. A person knows their right on a subject (whatever that subject might be) when you start calling people rude names and provide NOTHING to a debate.
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Well, isn't that ironic.
 
hooshoops said:
3 tds on gift wrapped play action goal line plays like luck had is not something to really pimp...that said his intangibles and pocket presence is off the charts...really his best traits...cause he missed a bunch of throws with poor placement or accuracy in the first half the other night...something i see him do a lot of frankly

as for the pick i stopped the dvr to see if the ball was out of hand i got still shot of ball in hand and hilton going to ground already and that was absolutely in the 5 yard zone...would i like to have that call absolutely i would do i think it's a concrete penalty given the ball was in his hand still no i don't

foles has mastered that philly offense but he's a system qb...said it last year saying it today...the star is the system in that offense...that the tempo the oline mccoy and ertz who is legit...riley cooper gets away with some extended arm play early in vertical routes...how he gets "separation"

rg3 is garbage...games entirely to contact...

both the eagles and colts have taken what miami should to score more points...really fast tempo on offense...
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Everything you said is spot on.

Kudos.

LD
 
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