Tannehill signs

[KTOWNFINFAN]

And if Tannehill ends up being good in 4 or 5 years when is contract is up he can flip the team the bird and walk. And if they franchise him he can refuse to sign a new deal and keep getting 20% raises on top of the franchise tag number. Way to start a relationship off on a bad foot Miami! lol Way to mess with and screw over a guy you took 8th overall.

And if you don't think that is EXACTLY what's going through the mind of Tannehill's agent tonight, you are naive! He's thinking of getting payback on these guys and this organization and just waiting his time hoping for the chance.

And this isn't me being negative in anyway, its being realistic! Hopefully time heels all wounds, but sometimes it doesn't! So be prepared down the road for another battle IF Tannehill ends ups being good.

If that is the way the agent feels then he won't be an agent very long. LOL if every agent got upset when a GM tried to get the best deal for their team there wouldn't be many agents around. There is ZERO chance that the agent is "UPSET" that both he and Ireland successfully accomplished their task. Ireland did the right thing and should be commended that he got it done so fast. I don't care if Tannehill missed two weeks it still had to be done.

If the agent holds such a obsurd grudge Tannehill should fire him, if Tannehill agrees with the agent, the dolphins should cut him now, because he will be nothing but trouble from now on.

 

[KTOWNFINFAN]

You'll find it works just about the opposite. No one wants to deal with unreasonable people ... and agents will increase THEIR DEMANDS & dig their heals in to compensate for it. Not to mention telling teams not to bother drafting their players from the get go.

If a team does "win" because they do have "leverage" ... the "loser" will hold that against them to their last breath trying to even the score at every turn.

Fair play = fair deals is the only way to go. its a win-win situation.

Please tell me that was an attempt at sarcasm!!!

 

[Spesh]

LOL trivial?? So if Tannehill ends up being the complete bust that about 25% of the people on the board are predicting, the 6 mil we save in year 4 in cap space means nothing? What ever, Ireland was doing his job and I for one am thankful to him that he did.

If he busts then we are out alot more then a few dollars. And Ireland's front office sure as hell wont be around to deal with the money situation.

This franchises future depends on Tannehill. So far, the start hasnt been smooth.

We dont hesistate to give out $15 million to Jake Grove, but we flat refuse to give out (supposedly)$6 million to a franchise quarterback.

 

[KTOWNFINFAN]

Where in the world are you getting your numbers from? The deal is 12.6 for 4 years. I have not seen the breakdown but Aponte and Ireland are not dumb enough to pay 50% in the last year.

My bad, you sir are correct. I was using the numbers from an example they were using on WQAM. But you are correct it would only be 3+ mil not 6, I stand corrected.

However it is still 3 mil that the team saves if things don't go well. Great job by Ireland, for sticking to his guns.

 

[MD]

My bad, you sir are correct. I was using the numbers from an example they were using on WQAM. But you are correct it would only be 3+ mil not 6, I stand corrected.

However it is still 3 mil that the team saves if things don't go well. Great job by Ireland, for sticking to his guns.

I understand your stance but keep in mind that without seeing the breakdown, we don't know how much it actually is. Even if it is 3 mil, it's peanuts in comparison to the cost if he is a bust.

 

[KTOWNFINFAN]

If he busts then we are out alot more then a few dollars. And Ireland's front office sure as hell wont be around to deal with the money situation.

This franchises future depends on Tannehill. So far, the start hasnt been smooth.

We dont hesistate to give out $15 million to Jake Grove, but we flat refuse to give out (supposedly)$6 million to a franchise quarterback.

I agree that if he bust out we are losing more than the money. But why make things worse by strapping the next GM with less cap space. This is a GOOD thing people, I really don't understand how this can be twisted into a negative. Ireland did what he was supposed to do, he got a better deal for the team and still got the rookie QB after missing only two days. I agree it would have been better to have him here from day one, but I would MUCH rather have him here two days late with a deal that doesn't strap the team to 3 mil dead money in year 4, than have him on time with a deal that doesn't have the clause. It's two days people, for a QB that has VERY little chance to be starting week one. We aren't France, we shouldn't be caving in and giving every agent the best deal just to be "getting along" with everyone. Ireland did a great job getting a better deal, how is that a bad thing??

 

[KTOWNFINFAN]

I understand your stance but keep in mind that without seeing the breakdown, we don't know how much it actually is. Even if it is 3 mil, it's peanuts in comparison to the cost if he is a bust.

Agreed!!!! But I don't see your point. Of course it is going to cost the team dearly if he turns out to be another Ryan Leaf, but how does getting a better deal for the team affect that?? I really don't think him missing two days of practice in shorts is going to be the difference in him being a star or a bust.

 

[Playmaker76]

Yea gotta agree now the agents will know that the Phins mean business and the rest of the teams that caved in on the offsets are weak and incompetent.

Actually I fear this will cause agents to continue to steer clients away from Miami.

 

[KTOWNFINFAN]

Actually I fear this will cause agents to continue to steer clients away from Miami.

So you envision a conversation something like this??

Agent: Well John Doe, you play position X and there are 4 or 5 teams that need an upgrade at that position. I think you have a good chance of starting at two or three of those. One of them is Miami and they have a warm climate and no state tax down there. And then there is team X, and Team Y who also might be a good fit. What do you think.

Player: Yeah I could see myself playing for X, Y or the fins.

Agent: Well one thing about the fins, you really have to watch out for that bunch. Word on the street is those nasty bastards down there in Miami's front office try and get the best deal for their team. They are trying out this radical new idea where they try to spend less, and save money, so they will have more money later to sign more players. Are you sure you won't to play for a bunch of looney tunes like that??

Player: Well no, certainly not. I just couldn't bring myself to force you to negotiate with such a bunch of whack Os. That would probably be too stressful for you, and since I am only paying you 5 or 10% of the two or three million I plan to make with this contract, I couldn't sleep at night thinking I put you through such an experience.

Yeah that crazy Ireland has ruined it for the entire franchise...

 

[Travis34]

Great to hear, I cant wait to hear the camp reports on him

 

[ToneOz]

RT signed. Now in a year from today we'll hope he's competing for a starting QB job

 

[fiinfan4ever13]

It's about time. Great news!

 

[andyahs]

Actually I fear this will cause agents to continue to steer clients away from Miami.

Which agents have steered clients away?

 

[Krush]

Please man you're killing me with that analogy LOL

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Moore will get cut, and Tannehill will compete this season

 

[Spesh]

I agree that if he bust out we are losing more than the money. But why make things worse by strapping the next GM with less cap space. This is a GOOD thing people, I really don't understand how this can be twisted into a negative. Ireland did what he was supposed to do, he got a better deal for the team and still got the rookie QB after missing only two days. I agree it would have been better to have him here from day one, but I would MUCH rather have him here two days late with a deal that doesn't strap the team to 3 mil dead money in year 4, than have him on time with a deal that doesn't have the clause. It's two days people, for a QB that has VERY little chance to be starting week one. We aren't France, we shouldn't be caving in and giving every agent the best deal just to be "getting along" with everyone. Ireland did a great job getting a better deal, how is that a bad thing??

Its a negative because its a complete slap in the face to the player directly responsible for our future success. Now we shouldnt be groveling to him, but its absolutely absurd we are asking him to take discounted deals that other players, not to mention other quarterbacks, refuse to touch. Is (supposedly) $3 million really worth sending the message to our franchise quarterback that we dont have confidence in him? Was that amount(only slightly more then what we paid Marc Colombo last season, another Ireland brilliant maneuver) worth letting him know we are ready to cut him at the drop of a hat? Of course not. The fact is, if Ireland has done his job properly then this contract clause is moot. Its obsolete. Ireland should either have confidence in his draft evaluation or he shouldnt have drafted Tannehill at all. But true to form, we decide to pick a battle over something that is hilariously petty.

Anyway you want to cut it: Ireland didnt do his job. He had 3 months to get it done. He didnt. The only teams that couldnt get it done are Jacksonville and Tennessee, those are not teams i want to emulate. This is very typical of Miami. There is a reason why we havent had a winning season in years: because we are constantly behind other teams. In terms of drafting, free agency, and coaching. Now, we can add "contract negotiation" to that.