Tannehill vs Luck Updated

[dolpns13]

Here are what the percentages come out to be. Favorable to RT.


Over 20 yards- RT 9 of 34. Luck 13 of 38 = RT - .265; AL - .342

10-19 yards- RT 55 of 109. Luck 44 of 89 = RT - .505; AL - .494

0-9 yards- RT 126 of 166. Luck 109 of 154. = RT - .759; AL - .708

Behind the Line- RT 34 of 36. Luck 40 of 50. = RT - .944; AL - .800

I did this a few weeks ago, and wanted to take another look. Not saying that RT is as good as Luck but, the stat comparison is very interesting.

RT has 2474 yards, a 6.8 avg, and a 61.2 completion %. Luck has 2430 yards, a 7.0 avg, and a 59.4 completion %.

RT has 14 TD's and 11 Int's. Luck has 14 TD's and 6 Int's.

RT is ranked #8 (PFF) with a 81.5 NFL rating. Luck is ranked #7 (PFF) with a 87.0 NFL rating.

RT has been sacked 41 times. Luck has been sacked 23 times.

RT has 25 drops. Luck has 25 drops.

Break Down by Passes in the Air

Over 20 yards- RT 9 of 34. Luck 13 of 38

10-19 yards- RT 55 of 109. Luck 44 of 89

0-9 yards- RT 126 of 166. Luck 109 of 154.

Behind the Line- RT 34 of 36. Luck 40 of 50.

Wonder if there are any Colts fans even thinking Luck is having a bad year, he should be replaced or, is a bust?.

 

[CRAZYDOLFAN305]

Add to the fact, that we have allowed just one WR to score a touchdown in the last 10 games, only one rusher to rush for 100 yards all season. #10 in scoring Defense, #10 in Goal Line defense, and #5 In goal line offense. Losing all 5 games, by a combine 30 Points. You would think we might just be just this close to hopefully putting it together, that would be the hope of the fanbase. And let's just forget for a second we are the 9th youngest team in the league.

But instead, we get fire this guy, get rid of this guy, this guy is a bust, our new head coach should be. Yada Yada.. And at the end of the because we did start 3-0, we now control our own destiny.

 

[J. David Wannyheimer]

Last season also adding Reggie Wayne's TDs, total yds, and yds per game to Tannehill - or subtracting them from Luck and you've got similar QBs except for Luck's greater number of Ints.

But be that as it may, if you think Geno Smith is, or will ever be in Tannehill's league, you're sniffing glue out of a paper bag!

I like Ryan Tannehill a lot and I think hoops is right about him, but he's definitely not in Luck's class. He might be some day, but he's definitely not at the moment. That's not a knock on Ryan Tannehill.

Nobody is in Andrew Luck's class right now except for Drew Brees and Peyton Manning, IMO.

Geno Smith is awful though, we don't even need to keep bringing him up. He's straight up ****ing awful.

 

[Vaark]

props to our SuperSleuth The Walrus for doing the heavy lifting on this during the draft

(says something about a QB that "only needs weapons" vs being admittedly gawdawful as well as disrespect for Geno at WV:

Junc didn't come back to this thread to make fun of the Jets as promised, so I went and found his posts on TGG instead.

This is before the 2nd round started:

I hope it is one of those things where 2-3 years down the road we look back thankful we were wrong and Idzik was right but I will be livid if we move up to take a QB.
Then, after the pick is made:

PLEASE bring back Mike Tannenbaum.


The only good news is at least we didn't waste picks to move up to get him.

We have a QB, he just needs weapons and now we will waste rebuilding years w/ a project QB w/ no weapons.
my guess is the restructure of Brick was to allow them to absorb Mark's cap hit when they release him. Good luck Mark, you will win somewhere else and we'll suck for years to come- and we deserve it
Instead of surrounding the QB w/ weapons we draft D, D AGAIN then take a project QB. This makes that Pitt title game loss even harder b/c I don't think we'll get that close to a SB in the next decade
we won when we surrounded him w/ talent, Geno couldn't win w/ immense talent in a weak conf in college
This next post in a thread called "Fire Idzik":

so far he got fleeced in the Revis deal, took two more defensive players and a project QB w/ 3 premium picks. So far I HATE him but I hope to be proven wrong.
we are tying our future to this guy, if he doesn't pans out he's a bust. Kellen Clemsn was bust as a 2nd rd picks. we will also be getting rid of a proven winner at QB. Geno has immense pressure to succeed.
Hopefully they give Mark a chance to win his job back like Brees in '04 after they took Rivers.
I'm with him on this. The Jets with Sanchez at QB are my favorite comedy show. I don't want to see it get canceled.

he had opportunities to trade back. 3 straight years w/ DL in 1st rd, 5 staright 1st rd picks on D and we wonder why the O sucks.
teams have been trading back like crazy, he had chances.

I hope he's right, I KNOW I am right on Sanchez and he will succeed somewhere. We should have been getting him weapons instead of competition. If he failed this year we go QB in a stronger QB draft next year but instead we take a QB just to take one


Then someone named Hobbes3259 posts "If the release Sanchez, and play Smith, theyll pick Johnny Football or Manziel next year."

Junc responds...

and then I will officially stop following this team.




Congratulations. You just read the post of the year.

 

[dolpns13]

What are the upgrades? Aside from Wallace, who drops everything thrown to him, this team is exactly the same as it was last year and actually the OL is a downgrade from last year. Also you forgot the "and in playoff contention" after your "Ryan in year 2 despite numerous upgrades in talent has Miami at 5-5 behind Jets" quote.

Keller never played one down. Gibson has been our for 4 weeks so not sure where you are seeing these upgrades.

Ryan in year 2 despite numerous upgrades in talent has Miami at 5-5 behind Jets

Geno as rookie w/ team predicted to win 2-3 games has team at 5-5 and in playoff contention

It would be hilarious to watch Geno play on this Miami Dolphins team with no OL or running game. He wuldnt make it through one half let alone 10 weeks.

 

[TheJetsBlow]

Geno is closer to Ryan than Ryan is to Luck. That says more about how good Luck is than anything else.

Rofl. This is the funniest thing I've read in a long time.

 

[nyjunc]

You don't know any of the above either, none of us do. Have you watched every one of RT's plays this year, and as importantly every one of Luck's plays to compare? IF so, how many plays when it matters most, to help the team win, did each QB make this year?

Phans watch their own team's players very closely but, do not watch other team's players anywhere near close to make a fair comparison.

I have never claimed that I did and actually I have been pretty complimentary of Ryan for the most part but he's not anywhere near Luck. we don't have to watch every snap, I can watch my bits and pieces of each them from every week and make a pretty competent determination. That doesn't mean Ryan stinks or will never be a top QB but he's not Luck.

Last season also adding Reggie Wayne's TDs, total yds, and yds per game to Tannehill - or subtracting them from Luck and you've got similar QBs except for Luck's greater number of Ints.

But be that as it may, if you think Geno Smith is, or will ever be in Tannehill's league, you're sniffing glue out of a paper bag!

the only stats that matter to me are wins and losses.

again, there's that reading thing again. I didn't say geno is as good as Ryan but he is closer to Ryan than Ryan is to luck and that says more about Luck than Geno. Ryan is a lot better than Geno right now and Luck is a lot better than Ryan.



it amazes me, the board sways in the wind. Allow Ryan to develop, a week ago you guys wanted the team torn apart and now after one win where you win b/c your D dominated and you think Ryan compares to Luck. Slow down, Ryan is a good prospect, allow him to develop w/o creating unreasonable expectations.

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Rofl. This is the funniest thing I've read in a long time.

not as funny as comparing Ryan Tannehill to Andrew Luck.

 

[So Be]

You are eating glue if you think Tannehill is in Luck's league. Point blank. Watch the games.

The phrase is "You must be SNIFFING glue", RT and Luck are both in the National Football LEAGUE, and I watch the Phins games at least twice but, thanks for the "great input." :)

 

[TheJetsBlow]

Just wondering.

Do you have anything to support this argument, or just your QB expertise. Its one thing to say something is...its another thing to be able to support it.

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He's using wishful thinking because he's a ****ing Jet fan who hopes Tannehill turns out to be horrible. That's all and that's it.

 

[mrbunglez]

we may see if geno has another stinker.



Our OL is better but it's not great. You guys pass way too jmuch, if you actually tried to run you could do it and take pressure off the QB but for some reason you want to pass like crazy every week.

Santonio has barely played
Cumberland has missed games
Winslow was suspended
Kerley is out for a while
hill has not progressed


we beat NO w/ Greg Salas off the street catching passes along w/ David Nelson.


Ryan has a lot more talent to throw to.

Who besides Wallace are the supposed "more talent" to throw to? Yes Clay and Mathews are surprising but the only talent that was really aquired and is not injured is Wallace. ANd the running game is stunted because of the poor run blocking from the horrendous line play.

 

[TheJetsBlow]

I have never claimed that I did and actually I have been pretty complimentary of Ryan for the most part but he's not anywhere near Luck. we don't have to watch every snap, I can watch my bits and pieces of each them from every week and make a pretty competent determination. That doesn't mean Ryan stinks or will never be a top QB but he's not Luck.



the only stats that matter to me are wins and losses.

again, there's that reading thing again. I didn't say geno is as good as Ryan but he is closer to Ryan than Ryan is to luck and that says more about Luck than Geno. Ryan is a lot better than Geno right now and Luck is a lot better than Ryan.



it amazes me, the board sways in the wind. Allow Ryan to develop, a week ago you guys wanted the team torn apart and now after one win where you win b/c your D dominated and you think Ryan compares to Luck. Slow down, Ryan is a good prospect, allow him to develop w/o creating unreasonable expectations.

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not as funny as comparing Ryan Tannehill to Andrew Luck.

Yeah its hilarious isn't it. They have almost identical stats and Tannehill beat him straight up in his house. How obsurd of us. Rofl.

 

[vagrantprodigy]

Tannehill outplayed him head to head this year, and kept up with a FARRR inferior team last year. They absolutely should and will be compared, year after year. So lets ignore stats, head to head competition, the fact that Luck has a far better supporting cast.. what else do you want to ignore?

You should work on ignoring how silly Geno is going to look against Ryan next month...

Geno looks silly against practice dummies. I used to re-watch Sanchez's worst games at times, just for fun. This season I'm getting to do the same thing with Geno.

 

[FSU Truth]

Based on what I have seen Tannehill and Luck are going to be the guys who are constantly battling each other in the AFC as top QB's and teams...Tannehill is doing as much as Luck with a putrid oline and running game. I'm not saying he better then Luck, but I think he can be in the same league as Luck. How many thought that coming out of college Brady and Manning would be in the same conversation or Breez in that conversation after his 1st 2 season?

 

[Vaark]

not as funny as comparing Ryan Tannehill to Andrew Luck.

this was much funnier.. at any time between 09 and now:

and finally:

 

[nyjunc]

He's using wishful thinking because he's a ****ing Jet fan who hopes Tannehill turns out to be horrible. That's all and that's it.

Of course I hope he doesn't pan out but where have I said that will happen? the problem is you guys are getting ahead of yourselves yet again. To compare him to Luck is beyond laughable.

Who besides Wallace are the supposed "more talent" to throw to? Yes Clay and Mathews are surprising but the only talent that was really aquired and is not injured is Wallace. ANd the running game is stunted because of the poor run blocking from the horrendous line play.

Your RBs are fine, even w/ OL issues Miller is averaging 4.5 YPC, you guys just abandon the run game b/c you trust Ryan more than you should and that is a big reason why you are only 5-5 w/ more talent.

Yeah its hilarious isn't it. They have almost identical stats and Tannehill beat him straight up in his house. How obsurd of us. Rofl.

Oh it was Ryan, your D played no role. Got it. your D had to face Indy's O 3 times protecting a 4 pt lead in the 4th qtr- 3 possessions against one of the best late game QBs in the league but it was Ryan who willed you to victory

how are 14 TDs and 6 INts comparable to 14 and 11? Ryan has almost DOUBLE the amount of INTs. his leading rusher averages LESS than 3 YPC.

Is 7-3 better than 5-5?