Teammates Bullied Martin

[Shouright]

In a moment of insight, Dan LeBetard once said that "Insults are the language of intamacy among men."

It actually took me aback it was such an astute point.
If people are screwing with you, you're in. If people are
being polite, you're on the outside, and their guard is up.

Whether that's true or not, people have the freedom to choose just how "in" they want to be, and whether or not they really give a damn about who else's guard is up.

 

[Kencoboy]

In a moment of insight, Dan LeBetard once said that "Insults are the language of intamacy among men."

It actually took me aback it was such an astute point.
If people are screwing with you, you're in. If people are
being polite you're on the outside, and their guard is up.[COLOR="Silver"

Very true. But sometimes a jackass comes along who is mean to other people because they're just plain evil. Maybe that's what went on here...

 

[Emanauguste]

None of u no what dude went thru in life or what the players have done to him... all I no is a team like ours should worry more about winning amd helping each other rather than pick on a guy who clearly couldn't handle it... u can sense if a person has a problem n im sure they didn't care... these are the distractions we dont need... u dont hear this type of stuff from winning organizations other than the giants.. I put money if any of u went threw people making in fun of u everyday n pushing ur buttons u all might snap n put ur hands on someone stop being hypocrites... lol its crazy I wish someone would go mess with legarrette blunt or ray lewis it'll be a different story but this story doesn't show martin being a coward it shows the leaders on our team being cowards n I dont find it to be a gud look for a struggling football team... stuff like this separates a locker room... the guy already struggles on the field he was supposed to be a steal in the draft it could be his own teammates stunting his growth

 

[GoonBoss]

None of u no what dude went thru in life or what the players have done to him... all I no is a team like ours should worry more about winning amd helping each other rather than pick on a guy who clearly couldn't handle it... u can sense if a person has a problem n im sure they didn't care... these are the distractions we dont need... u dont hear this type of stuff from winning organizations other than the giants.. I put money if any of u went threw people making in fun of u everyday n pushing ur buttons u all might snap n put ur hands on someone stop being hypocrites... lol its crazy I wish someone would go mess with legarrette blunt or ray lewis it'll be a different story but this story doesn't show martin being a coward it shows the leaders on our team being cowards n I dont find it to be a gud look for a struggling football team... stuff like this separates a locker room... the guy already struggles on the field he was supposed to be a steal in the draft it could be his own teammates stunting his growth

All I "no" is that you can't spell.

And again, you think pro athletes are gods. They are not.

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In a moment of insight, Dan LeBetard once said that "Insults are the language of intamacy among men."

It actually took me aback it was such an astute point.
If people are screwing with you, you're in. If people are
being polite you're on the outside, and their guard is up.[COLOR="Silver"

Very true. But sometimes a jackass comes along who is mean to other people because they're just plain evil. Maybe that's what went on here...[/QUOTE]

I don't think so. You could be right, of course.....But I don't think so. Not if a group was involved. That's systemic.[COLOR="Silver"]

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Whether that's true or not, people have the freedom to choose just how "in" they want to be, and whether or not they really give a damn about who else's guard is up.

If they don't want to be in, they should be out. It appears that Martin wants to be out.

 

[Emanauguste]

All I "no" is that you can't spell.

And again, you think pro athletes are gods. They are not.


I see we have a professor online and no one said anything about gods douchebag is that good enough spelling for u... u cleary dont understand my point.. its that punks target weak people rather then a man whos gna get on his level... if he would of put his foot up someomes butt it would be a different story. ..

 

[GoonBoss]

All I "no" is that you can't spell.

And again, you think pro athletes are gods. They are not.

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I see we have a professor online and no one said anything about gods douchebag is that good enough spelling for u... u cleary dont understand my point.. its that punks target weak people rather then a man whos gna get on his level... if he would of put his foot up someomes butt it would be a different story. ..

I agree.

Martin is a targeted weak person.

 

[BONG SHULA]

Ha, anyone on here callous enough to equate mental illness with 'weakness' is so ignorant that I don't even know where to begin. It's the 21st century people...time to enter it.

Edit: A macho sexist to boot; too priceless.

 

[ohall]

Ha, anyone on here callous enough to equate mental illness with 'weakness' is so ignorant that I don't even know where to begin. It's the 21st century people...time to enter it.

Edit: A macho sexist to boot; too priceless.

If a football player has mental issues I don't see how it can not be viewed as a weakness. The question becomes is that weakness worth the hassle.

This isn't real life, this is pro football.

 

[spiketex]

If a football player has mental issues I don't see how it can not be viewed as a weakness. The question becomes is that weakness worth the hassle.

This isn't real life, this is pro football.

If he has schizophrenia or is bipolar, either can be successfully treated with the correct medication (provided that it is taken). I understand that some high functioning with bipolar disorder prefer not to take their medication because they think they are at their best in their manic state.
I don't think that they have found a medication to successfully treat a borderline personality disorder.

 

[twix2500]

I sitting reading you guys responses and just shaking my head. First of all, do yall know what Bullying is?? There has to be Intimidation if its bullying, not a playing a prank on him.
Then I hear yall talking about the players singling Martin out as if he not part of the family. Ummmm having fun and joking with each other is what many families or groups with close ties do. They would be singling him out if they treated him differently and were not comfortable talking and joking with him. Then you can say why are we treating him different or why are his teammates uncomfortable with him.

Please stop calling it Bullying, unless his teammates taking this 6'7 lunch money and threating him. Call it what it is, a grown man who cant handle other grown men joking with him.

Did the Miami Heat Bully Dexter Pittman?? C'Mon Son???

[video=youtube;BM-XQtlZM34]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BM-XQtlZM34[/video]

 

[Shouright]

If they don't want to be in, they should be out. It appears that Martin wants to be out.

Martin should be able to be a part of the team without being harassed to include himself in whatever sort of cliques exist on it, or to act more like the people in them. People have the freedom in the workplace to be as cohesive with such cliques or as individualistic as they'd like, without being harassed by co-workers for choosing more of the latter.

As a former service member, I'm sure you're highly aware of the extent of the sacrifice men like you have made to preserve such freedoms among the American people. We're talking about Martin's freedom here. Nobody should be making him feel like he isn't free to be his own person in his workplace.

 

[twix2500]

Martin should be able to be a part of the team without being harassed to include himself in whatever sort of cliques exist on it, or to act more like the people in them. People have the freedom in the workplace to be as cohesive with such cliques or as individualistic as they'd like, without being harassed by co-workers for choosing more of the latter.

As a former service member, I'm sure you're highly aware of the extent of the sacrifice men like you have made to preserve such freedoms among the American people. We're talking about Martin's freedom here. Nobody should be making him feel like he isn't free to be his own person in his workplace.

Im sorry man, you are pampering a grown adult.

Jonathan Martin is not a child, if he was not comfortable with his teammates joking with him then he should talked to them as a man and also he should have never been involved in pranks himself. You not living in reality if you think people are going to treat you how you invision to be treated unless you communicate it to them. This is mostly negative on JMartin personality. This looks as if he has very weak social skills, one he cant handle other grown man joking with him, second he reacts like a child by leaving his job without speaking to his coaches or management. Society is not going to evovle just to fit one person character. There is 50 plus people in this organization and team that he has to learn how to deal with. That is part of being an adult, dealing with people of all different personalities, cultures and customs. If he cant handle it, then he needs to find a career that he can isolate himself and not have to deal with different people.

 

[studsatele]

I just dont get it. Guy dumps his team, right before a game that COULD define the season for his team, cause of locker room culture. Things that have happened amongst men since we existed. And yet he'ssomehow magicallythe victim here? Bull****! The team is the victim, us fans are the victims. Not the ivy league educated, multi millionaire BUST. Yet some of you act like he's a loveable, mentally slow man child with a heart of gold, who mean old Incog slapped and called a *** and posted it on YouTube. Sorry, Lil Weirdo knew exactly what football life is like. Wonder if he'll give Ross back his money? Oh that 2nd round pick would be nice also.

 

[Shouright]

Jonathan Martin is not a child, if he was not comfortable with his teammates joking with him then he should talked to them as a man and also he should have never been involved in pranks himself. You not living in reality if you think people are going to treat you how you invision to be treated unless you communicate it to them. This is mostly negative on JMartin personality. This looks as if he has very weak social skills, one he cant handle other grown man joking with him, second he reacts like a child by leaving his job without speaking to his coaches or management. Society is not going to evovle just to fit one person character. There is 50 plus people in this organization and team that he has to learn how to deal with. That is part of being an adult, dealing with people of all different personalities, cultures and customs. If he cant handle it, then he needs to find a career that he can isolate himself and not have to deal with different people.

I agree that there are better ways of handling it than just marching out the door, but his less than optimal way of handling the situation doesn't in itself condone the behavior of the other people involved.

Employment law doesn't just protect children. There are provisions in place for adults, as well.

 

[twix2500]

I agree that there are better ways of handling it than just marching out the door, but his less than optimal way of handling the situation doesn't in itself condone the behavior of the other people involved.

Employment law doesn't just protect children. There are provisions in place for adults, as well.

less than optimal way? Stop pampering him, he could be FIRED for JOB Abandonment.

His life is not being threaten, no one is intimidating him, they were not attacking him, being unfair, no discrimination. When we reach a certain age we have to be adults, learning how to comminicate is part of an adult responsibility. You cant keep blaming others for you actions or expecting others to be your parent. At some point you HAVE to deal with life and dont expect others to do it for you.

Even HR will tell you that to a certain point you have to deal with people your self.