Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by DKphin, Jan 11, 2018.
Good God, he's still in our plans?
Lets hope not
He wasn’t an eye sore. I hope we don’t just roll with him as plan A, but he should be kept for depth at guard / center. He’s cheap and under contract another year i believe
Our line actually got better when he came back from ir
LT- Tunsil, Sterup
LG- (draft pick/FA),
C- Pouncey, Brendel
RG- Larsen, Asiata
RT- Davis, Smith
(Personally hope bring in at least 2 new OL regardless)
I think this is a highly possible lineup. A lot of us want Pouncey gone, but it seems unlikely at this point. I think Davis was better at RT than RG, thus maybe we let Larsen slide over, and let James walk. Which I’m fine with.
I think, depending on who we bring in during the off-season, this is an OL we can get by with, maybe Asiata beats out Larsen but all of those guys should be options on the inside.
LT is available
That is just re-shuffling the deck from this past years failed o-line and hoping for a different result. Can't bring back 4 of 5 starters and hope for a different result
that's the exact platform of this team.also include members the defense and qb. I don't know what miracle they are hoping for
We have no legit LG on this team.
Larsen, Davis and Asiata all play RG, with Larsen having some LG/C ability and Davis having some RT ability.
Miami needs to invest in a really good LG. Not only for the benefit of the QB and running game, but to the benefit of your franchise LT you drafted two years ago.
Throwing Steen next to him to start the year was a joke.
Funny enough, your best LG on the team might be Mike Pouncey. Sure he played meh at guard when we tried him there a few years ago, but that shows you the state of the LG position on this team right now. I would consider giving Brendal reps at C and kicking Pouncey left if we don't address the position. Then Larsen can be a 3 tier backup on game days. Question becomes do they resign James. If they don't they maybe kick Davis to RT and then give a shot to Asiata to battle Larsen for RG.
Either way Miami needs a LG prospect/FA brought on this team in the offseason.
Enough is enough.
Justin Pugh is a left guard and he plays a very solid one.
When healthy. Caveat being the healthy part.
Been hurt a lot. He’s not gonna be cheap either if he gets away from the giants
What about moving Sterup to LG? He just seems so slow for the LT position .
As depth I agree but like you said "plan A" should be out of the question
Not sure how many 6'9'' guards there are in the NFL
might be problematic for passing lanes
Larsen can play all the RG he wants after the fins sign Quenton Nelson.
I must admit, I'm warming to the idea of Nelson in the 1st. There's a very good chance he will be there at 11
He is like a more athletic and just as nasty Ritchie Incognito. He should be there at 11, even if todays mocks have him a bit earlier.
I never advocate for OL this early, but the idea of battling UDFAs and 30 year old career backups for LG in 2018 should just fall on deaf ears to everybody.
Hell I am not even in love with Davis at RG, but he showed some potential with live bullets and with Larsen and Asiata, you figure you can exit camp feeling at least decent at RG.
You are not giving Norwell the contract he will demand . . . If not Nelson, then you better damn sure be on the ball in round 2 for LG.
Too bad davis already has that spot. I dont want Davis at RT like some seem to. Keep James. Keept Davis at RG. Pouncey can stay one more season to help groom a rook. Ohio states billy price comes to mind.
Wyatt Teller, LG Virginia Tech, , mid rounds. He may jump up to the second round after eval's.
The one knock (ok not that much of a knock) is that he doesn’t move well when he gets out in space and that may effect the running game at the pro level. He obviously dominates off the snap.
Any comments? We tend to draf (supposedly) the more athletic smaller type OL although you wouldn’t know that since we still cant run screens effectively
I dunno, i have watched a few games of him and keyed on him a bit. If people consider it a weakness that he doesn't move very well, it is only because he is so damn dominant In other areas. Violent dude man and he definitely can move . . . Nah he ain't Cooper out in space when he was a prospect but he more than holds his own.
That said you are talking i have maybe watched 5 or 6 games of the guy, certainly not 30.
I think he is a glove fit for us and exactly what is needed on our line. I would consider it more than a consolation prize if we have to "settle" for him at 11.
I like Pugh but his injury history worries me...and I dont want to spend alot of $ on any position for a guy who is very good at his pos but yet has that injury history...Luke Joekel? Andrew Norwell? maybe we just draft one high
that's probably the way to look at it...he's been hurt too much...when healthy he's a very good left guard...not a tackle giants failed him when they put him there...
I don't think Washburn has had a chance to evaluate tape from last year, but ultimately I think he will choose to maintain the tackle position, with the exception of James who I expect to be a cap casualty. I think he will roll with Pouncey and Brendel at Center. Hopefully they can find 3 OG/C from a combination of the draft and free agency to compete for an open spot at
LG, compete with Larsen at RG, and serve as a potential long-term replacement for Pouncey.
* Note -- I didn't forget about Asiata, I just don't see him as a realistic option given his limited mobility and position flexibility. I think he gets cut.
LT - Tunsil, Smith
LG - Rookie/FA
C - Pouncey, Brendel
RG - Larsen/Rookie/FA,
RT - Davis, Young
I don't think anybody would cry if we drafted Nelson but there's a good chance he won't be there at 11. But there's going to be a few good guards/centers when we pick at 42 and even at 73. I'd not draft a guard AFTER the 3rd round as we already have enough of those guys......if you're going to draft a guard then draft a guard that will actually make a freaking difference once and for all. Don't waste a pick on a guy that won't see the field like Asiata
Signing Pugh to a reasonable contract to play LG and drafting a Center is definite possibility. He's not a Tackle. The Giants have had worse time than the Dolphins with their OL
I have to disagree with Davis at RT.
The kid bounced around different Practice Squads for 2-3 years- not much experience- he was former DT in college converted Jr year.
He finally found success at RG. Don't mess with it. Pencil him in at RG and let him grow into the position for next 10 years.
I understand you may want to save $$ on James. Not sure if Smith is the answer or resign Jones for less than the 8 Mill.
I’m gonna disagree I think Nelson will be there at 11
But it only takes one team and you never know. Every off script player that goes in front of us is a plus
No doubt. Giants o line has been awful
It’s been what miamis used to be frankly
If I remember correctly, Davis graded out pretty well at RT too. Whatever position he ultimately plays, I too hope the coaching staff lets him stick to it and grow into it.
Well i don’t personally want Pouncey here anymore but it doesn’t seem like we will cut him at the moment. We have pieces to build on, like Tunsil, Davis, and maybe Smith.
I really think Eric Smith could be a solid player for us.
I’d like to draft one guard and a center to develop
Draft both Teller and Nelson then, lol. I'm tired of this giant ***** offensive line. They're so dumb they couldn't even tell their coach was on blow.
We need some big appalachian fleshmonsters that show up in bigass lifted trucks to haul their nuts in. This franchise would've been so different even if they had drafted Lane Johnson instead of Dion Jordan.
We at least need to have one guy in there that can influence the group. Pouncey spends his spare time going to clubs in Miami wearing Aaron Hernandez hats. We need the kind of dude that spends his time either in the gym or looking to kill something for sport.
Miami FH consensus: let's put our 30 yr old QB behind another line made up from the bargain bin.
Miami Front Office agrees.
Following terms like "pissing blood" to follow.