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The Josh Rosen Saga: Will It Happen All Over Again With The Miami Dolphins?

he developed some nasty habits last year because he wasn’t ready to play..

In college you didn’t see hitches as he surveyed his reads, last year they were all over his game..sometimes two three hitches before release...

Sure sign that he was’nt comfortable with the speed..

But, I’m willing to sacrifice the late 2nd to find out..
 
Phinatic8u said:
Miami, I can't remember when, hasn't done a move like this in awhile.

Got a sale on a kid that has a past of excellence. Past of being great. It's a win win move no matter how you want to slice it.
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What if he is Brock Osweiler bad and leads us to a 13th place in the draft next year?

Seems like a loss to me but I dont think he will see the field that much either way this year.

If he isnt good enough to beat Ryan Fitzpatrick isnt that a loss?

Just saying there is plenty that can go wrong with wasting a 2nd round pick. Remember that Xavien Howard was 2nd round pick.

I dont feel like we have the luxury of throwing away 2nd round picks when we couldnt even trade any of our players for anything lower than a 4th round pick this year.
 
It up to Rosen what happen in future. he is still young qb. dolphins seem to want competition at qb spot. make you play better. it could be good thing or bad thing coming to dolphins. dolphins have not gotten this position right in 18 yr. so it importance to do right this time around or next 2 yr if they can.
 
More than likely Rosen isn't the answer long term for us and he will probably be in the same situation less than a year from now. But he gives QB depth and competition and we know he is talented QB and the move was low risk. He at least gives me a reason to watch dolphins football closely in 2019, prior to the trade we knew Fitz was just a stop gap and we we are in full rebuild mode.
 
illscriptures said:
What if he is Brock Osweiler bad and leads us to a 13th place in the draft next year?

Seems like a loss to me but I dont think he will see the field that much either way this year.

If he isnt good enough to beat Ryan Fitzpatrick isnt that a loss?

Just saying there is plenty that can go wrong with wasting a 2nd round pick. Remember that Xavien Howard was 2nd round pick.

I dont feel like we have the luxury of throwing away 2nd round picks when we couldnt even trade any of our players for anything lower than a 4th round pick this year.
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If he's as bad as Osweiler, you'd have the No.1 pick in the bank.

And we didn't throw away a pick, we flipped a second for the player and another 2nd. That kind of value is literally the opposite of throwing away a pick.

If he's your backup QB for the next 5 years and never plays a game, that's STILL good value.
 
illscriptures said:
What if he is Brock Osweiler bad and leads us to a 13th place in the draft next year?

Seems like a loss to me but I dont think he will see the field that much either way this year.

If he isnt good enough to beat Ryan Fitzpatrick isnt that a loss?

Just saying there is plenty that can go wrong with wasting a 2nd round pick. Remember that Xavien Howard was 2nd round pick.

I dont feel like we have the luxury of throwing away 2nd round picks when we couldnt even trade any of our players for anything lower than a 4th round pick this year.
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It's never a waste of a 2nd round pick on a potential good qb. Especially one with past excellence.
 
djphinfan said:
he developed some nasty habits last year because he wasn’t ready to play..

In college you didn’t see hitches as he surveyed his reads, last year they were all over his game..sometimes two three hitches before release...

Sure sign that he was’nt comfortable with the speed..

But, I’m willing to sacrifice the late 2nd to find out..
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There is something very specific with this point; and you're correct, he developed those bad habits. He developed them, fairly quickly, after Leftwich took over as OC. Leftwich made a point of simplifying the offense and cutting down on contested throws, but he also didn't try to scheme players open with pre-snap motion. If you watch the games, Rosen started having fits at that point; he had nowhere to throw the ball a lot of the time.
 
This really is a no-lose situation.

Want to tank? Okay, if Rosen doesn't work out, look at it as wasting the 2019 2nd round pick....and getting an extra 2020 2nd round pick. So the team just moves assets down the road a year.

Don't want to tank? Okay, the team took a shot with a reclamation project, and got him for pennies on the dollar. We know what we had in Tannehill. We know what we have in Fitzpatrick. Maybe the lights come on for Rosen, and he lights up the AFC East.
 
My crystal ball says Josh Rosen will prevail as a legetimate starting QB. Sky is the limit.

My crystal ball has lied to me before though.
 
djphinfan said:
he developed some nasty habits last year because he wasn’t ready to play..

In college you didn’t see hitches as he surveyed his reads, last year they were all over his game..sometimes two three hitches before release...

Sure sign that he was’nt comfortable with the speed..

But, I’m willing to sacrifice the late 2nd to find out..
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No...he was in a horrid situation with a Decimated O-line and the worst team in football.
 
The Goat said:
There is something very specific with this point; and you're correct, he developed those bad habits. He developed them, fairly quickly, after Leftwich took over as OC. Leftwich made a point of simplifying the offense and cutting down on contested throws, but he also didn't try to scheme players open with pre-snap motion. If you watch the games, Rosen started having fits at that point; he had nowhere to throw the ball a lot of the time.
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Yeah that and a decimated O-line.
 
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