Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by DKphin, Apr 16, 2018.
Cut and replace those that don’t show or don’t have an excuse from Gase. Should have 100% participation if they truly want to be great!
"Cut and replace" negates 'voluntary'
Didn't we have near perfect attendance last year? Except for Suh?
And also negates getting familiar with your new teammates and doing whatever it takes to make your team better
I think sometimes stories are written just to take up space.
So that’s Pats culture? Gronk skipping also
Although the story is a little over the top, the premise of what he is saying makes sense.
Over the top? Armando? Never.
If only Armando was as smart as he thinks...
It'd be nice to have everyone there of course but I don't expect that. What I want is for the o-line to gel together in TC and the new WR's to get on the same page with Tannehill. Those two right there are the main ones imo
Is this open to the public today?
It is literally against league rules.
Here's the problem...
Most NFL teams want players to buy into a college like atmosphere where the team knows best. The team will put you on a diet program and manage your weight, the team will tell you how to work out, etc... because the TEAM knows what's best for you..... But when it comes to contract time... "It's business" and the team will spend months identifying all of the things that are wrong with you so that they don't have to pay you what you're asking for..
Players aren't that naive anymore. Players know that the team doctors and nutritionist and coaches aren't always right, don't always have the players best interest in mind and are human and therefore subjected to being wrong, or driven by personal agendas. This is why many players work with personal coaches, Dr's and Nutritionist. They're professionals making a lot of money and can afford to take a vested interest in their own development and health.
It's been proven that a player can come to all of the voluntary stuff, OTA's etc... and do everything the team wants, but if the TEAM decides they're no longer needed... they're sent packing.
New additions Frank Gore, Danny Amendola and Robert Quinn are present at the first day of Dolphins voluntary offseason conditioning. #IMPORTANTISIMO
Dude. They’re basically lifting weights lol.
Can't wait to see that guy back on the field.
Good luck with the lawsuit from the NFL Players Association
And yet Gronk did not show for NE.
Voluntary vs Involuntary
I wouldn't be surprised if Gronks traded for a first round pick
allowing the Pats 3 first round picks,That pick could be used for a QB or even Saquon Barkley
The possibility is terrifying
Round 1, Pick 23 (23rd overall) - From Los Angeles Rams*
Round 1, Pick 31 (31st overall) - Assigned Selection
Round 2, Pick 11 (43rd overall) - From San Francisco*
Round 2, Pick 31 (63rd overall) - Assigned Selection
Round 3, Pick 31 (95th overall) - Assigned Selection
If they wanted to trade up for a QB or Barkley they could
If they wanted to replace Gronk with Goedert they could
If they want to draft left tackle Mike McGlinchey they could
It's scary, the options they have in the draft
Well Gronk is also trying to get a new contract. But also keep in mind the Oatd have an established culture that's been around almost 2 decades. We do not have that
If I was a fan of a team that had as many rings as the Pats I wouldn’t care if anyone showed
NP...every player should want to be at volunteery work outs for the betterment of the team
So happy to see DVP in the building for voluntaries since his work ethic is knocked so much. Hopefully he's on a steady diet plan as well.
Also really nice to see Raekwon!!
Knee looks great!
I can tell!
Would be nice but thats not how it works in real life. No matter what the job is there are some people who try hard to excel and some people who are ok with just getting by.
Agree, but you just can't go around releasing players because they decided NOT
to show up for a voluntary workout/s. The NFL players association has rules regarding
You can't just cut and replace players like you posted for not showing up
Workouts cannot begin prior to the first Monday in April for clubs with a new head coach or the third Monday in April for all other clubs
Workouts are strictly voluntary; Club officials cannot indicate workouts are anything other than voluntary
Maximum 4 w/o per week (no weekends), with one week being the mandatory minicamp (not permitted on weekends)
Contact work is prohibited in all workouts (e.g. "live" blocking, tackling, pass rushing, bump-and-run, etc.)
Intensity and tempo of drills should be at a level conducive to learning, with player safty as the highest priority.
Phase One | 4 hours a day
Two weeks | Limited to strength and conditioning activities ("dead ball"); only strength and conditioning coaches allowed on field
90 minute max on the field
Clubs can only specify 2 hours for players to be at the facility
Players choose the other 2 hours for weights, etc.
Phase Two | 4 hours a day
Three weeks | same rules as phase one apply except:
All coaches allowed on the field
Individual and “perfect play” drills allowed
No offense vs. defense, no one - on - one, no helmets
Phase Three | 6 hours a day
4 weeks total
3 weeks for 10 total OTA’s
A maximum of 3 OTA’s each week for the first 2 weeks
During Weeks 1 & 2 a 4th non OTA workout is allowed but phase two rules apply
A maximum of 4 OTA’s for the 3rd or 4th week
One week for mini camp
No pads except protective knee and elbow pads, helmets are permitted
No live contact
7 on 7, 9 on 7 and 11 on 11 drills will be permitted provided no live contact takes place
Minicamp | 10 hours a day
Physicals on Monday but no practice
Practices Tuesday-Thursday, with a day off on friday
Allowed two practices totaling 3 ½ Hours on the field per day
Second practice limited to walk through activities only
Who would trade a first round pick for a guy who doesn't know if he is going to retire or not?
I think the retirement rumors were due to the way he felt Belichick was treating him
I don't know. He has been told by a lot of people in Hollywood that he could have a great career outside of football. He has that whole wrestling thing also and he has had a ton of injuries. I really think he is weighing retirement.
You forgot the part where I said unless they have an excuse from Gase. Gase can cut whoever he wants
I'm with the players on this. They negotiated a contract making such offseason activities voluntary. And as long as it remains as such, I have no place to bitch about anything. And whining about it, is silly.
Gronk isnt going to do wrestling for long, if he is just a mouthpiece like Shane McMahon. But even that dude ends up in body casts from time to time, doing things I doubt we will ever see Gronk do.
Gronk celebrity is NFL or NE based. Once the game is done, he will follow the likes of previous NFL veterans into the studio of ESPN or FOX.
Who’s whining. I posted my opinion
Or...veterans understand what is needed from their bodies and take the necessary steps to keep in line with what the CS expects when mandatory workouts begin.
I'm sure Brady isnt just getting by at this time of year.