***The MIAMI HEAT 2006 NBA CHAMPIONS thread.***

[Alex44]

This is so random but in the backround of the game I heard the music from the game 'Pacman' you know the music that comes when pacman gets eaten by a ghost

Thats making me laugh for some reason

 

[PressCoverage]

Do you really need to be so snippy to everyone? I believe he meant the fact that he's always injured. And even if he didn't he still isn't even close to the fastest guy on the court making him less mobile then everyone else. So can you please stop jumping down everyones throat when u answer what they say. Thank you.

He's always like that.... And much worse in the political forum... He's in complete denial that the Pistons are an elite team, and the Heat are not...

The Heat have no answers for Prince, nor Rasheed... They can not solve Detroit's suffocating defense in the clutch... They look disorganized and out of sync on their own defensive end of the floor...

They have a $20 million center who can't jump, and is averaging career lows in points per game, rebounds per game, assists per game, steals per game, second lowest blocks per game... all while recording his highest fouls per game since his rookie year... That tells me he can't move his feet, and he's just reaching with his arms...

They have a superstar guard who completely imploded the other night at home against Detroit and did not show he was mature enough yet to lead his team to glory...

They have a high-priced No. 3 who can not go to the basket with any power, and can not knock down open threes with any remotely consistent success, despite spotting up for an inordinate amount of them, often with no teammates under the basket and no defenders around for miles...

they have a Jeff Posey, who is a complete disappointment...

They have serious injury problems with their depth, and little fire as a team...

The Miami Heat had better turn it on very, very soon, or they won't even reach Detroit... Right now, Indiana is a team that take them to 6 games, and New Jersey is a team that can flat beat them in 7...

 

[Fresh]

Dorell Wright looks about 10-15 pounds bigger since last year. I just noticed since usually when he's put in, I'm not watching the game anymore..

 

[Section126]

He's always like that.... And much worse in the political forum... He's in complete denial that the Pistons are an elite team, and the Heat are not...

...

And just like in the political forum...you have no idea about what you are talking about.

Find WHERE i have said that Detroit isn't an elite team. Go ahead.

I even picked Detroit to beat Miami in 6 a couple of months ago.

The rest of your post reeks of a very uninformed person that has watched maybe 2 Heat games...and both probably losses.


Shaq tonight 27 points (13-16) and 10 rebounds, 4 blocks. They rested Wade it seems as they sat him for long stretches in the 2nd and 3rd..

The Heat roll over the Wizards on the road and put a little more distance between them and the Nets (Nets lost to Cleveland).

Press...stick to something you know at least a little about.

 

[Section126]

Field Goal percentage, Field Goal percentage, one more time...all together now...FG%.

Shaq is shooting 59.4% right now....(it will go up a little with his latest 13-16 performance)

In his best season...it was 60.1%...that was last year.

In His best seasons...his FG% has ranged from a high of 59.9% to a low of 55.7%.

In his best season ...he shot 57.4%.

He is just taking fewer shots.

If you go by production per minute....guess what? He is having career high's in every category except rebounds per game.

The fact remains...he is still the best center in the league by far.

here is another one for you Shaq haters that have popped up lately.

In games that SHAQ has played a minimum of 35 minutes:

He has averaged 28.2 ppg and 11.3 rpg.


Now...when you realize that those were Shaq's averages or better than Shaq's averages when he actually averaged 37 to 40+ minutes a game...you then see the folly of saying that his production is down.

No. His minutes are down.

 

[Alex44]

He's always like that.... And much worse in the political forum... He's in complete denial that the Pistons are an elite team, and the Heat are not...

The Heat have no answers for Prince, nor Rasheed... They can not solve Detroit's suffocating defense in the clutch... They look disorganized and out of sync on their own defensive end of the floor...

They have a $20 million center who can't jump, and is averaging career lows in points per game, rebounds per game, assists per game, steals per game, second lowest blocks per game... all while recording his highest fouls per game since his rookie year... That tells me he can't move his feet, and he's just reaching with his arms...

They have a superstar guard who completely imploded the other night at home against Detroit and did not show he was mature enough yet to lead his team to glory...

They have a high-priced No. 3 who can not go to the basket with any power, and can not knock down open threes with any remotely consistent success, despite spotting up for an inordinate amount of them, often with no teammates under the basket and no defenders around for miles...

they have a Jeff Posey, who is a complete disappointment...

They have serious injury problems with their depth, and little fire as a team...

The Miami Heat had better turn it on very, very soon, or they won't even reach Detroit... Right now, Indiana is a team that take them to 6 games, and New Jersey is a team that can flat beat them in 7...

If your going to talk about that last game at least factor in everything

1- No Posey or J-Will, yeah you look at that and say so what they arent stars, but they are solid players who provide depth, You cant rest Wade when those guys arent playing, by the fourth quarter you could tell Wade
was gassed from trying to keep us in the game

2- No anwser for rasheed? Yeah your right Zo wasnt playing

3- Shaqs minutes are down, not his stats, his stats per minute have actually risen this year

Detroit may beat us, but trust me when everyone is healthy we are more than capable of taking down detroit

 

[Section126]

They have a superstar guard who completely imploded the other night at home against Detroit and did not show he was mature enough yet to lead his team to glory...

Are you kidding? I guess you missed Wade's playoff performances last year...including his performances against those Pistons...:sidelol: A hint...The playoffs Wade had last year put him in some pretty select company.


They have a high-priced No. 3 who can not go to the basket with any power, and can not knock down open threes with any remotely consistent success, despite spotting up for an inordinate amount of them, often with no teammates under the basket and no defenders around for miles...

Antoine Walker is not the #3 on this team...he is the 7th man, and the 2nd man off the bench when the Heat are healthy. Jason WIlliams is the 3rd scoring threat on the starting lineup.

they have a Jeff Posey, who is a complete disappointment...

His name is James Posey...

They have serious injury problems with their depth, and little fire as a team...

They will have everybody back for the start of the playoffs. How would you know that they have little fire?
...

This has become an epidemic. Although ...the critics that haven't even seen them play..are becoming easier to spot.

 

[nick1]

how don't the Heat have good depth? I don't get it. they have Payton, Walker, Anderson, Anderson, and Zo all of which are good bench players. Derek Anderson just put up 20 points off of the bench.

 

[Muck]

It's common knowledge that, prior to Zo's injury, Shaq was intentionally being played 30 minutes a game in his return. That means he was sitting more than 1/3 of the game.

I can't believe his scoring and rebounding aren't career highs!!

 

[PressCoverage]

And just like in the political forum...you have no idea about what you are talking about.

Find WHERE i have said that Detroit isn't an elite team. Go ahead.

I even picked Detroit to beat Miami in 6 a couple of months ago.

The rest of your post reeks of a very uninformed person that has watched maybe 2 Heat games...and both probably losses.


Shaq tonight 27 points (13-16) and 10 rebounds, 4 blocks. They rested Wade it seems as they sat him for long stretches in the 2nd and 3rd..

The Heat roll over the Wizards on the road and put a little more distance between them and the Nets (Nets lost to Cleveland).

Press...stick to something you know at least a little about.

Yeah, he's great off a loss against .500 teams with no center... I know exactly what i'm talking about, especially in the PoFo, where i've been completely dominating you, to the point where you resort to avoiding the debate itself and issue an immature personal insult before cutting and running...

This team is not going to beat Detroit in the playoffs, and might not get past New Jersey in the second round... Stings, I know, but you'll see ...

Hey, I like the Heat, ... but when it comes to basketball, I'm a realist... This group does not have the "it" factor... I'll be making money against them in the postseason, just like i did the past two...

 

[Section126]

Here is another tidbit...

(Sorry to pile on...:wink: )

The Heat's record with Shaq playing this year?

Try 40-14.

without Shaq...10-12

 

[Section126]

Hey, I like the Heat, ... but when it comes to basketball, I'm a realist... This group does not have the "it" factor... I'll be making money against them in the postseason, just like i did the past two...

Dominating me? of course you are...riiiiight...since you disagree with me...I must be wrong and I must be getting destroyed because you are right? riiiiight. You have issues.

As for basketball...you really have proven to not know much.

You also stated that you have made alot of money betting against the Heat in the post season in the last two years....

More BS. You must have had incredible timing...because the Heat in the last two postseasons were a very good betting proposition in the playoffs..being 7-6-1 against the number in 03-04 playoffs and 9-6 in the 04-05 playoffs.

Okay...let me guess...you bet against the heat straight up (money line)?

In 03'-04' you needed great timing also since they beat the Hornets 4-3 in the first round and lost to the Pacers 4-2 for a playoff record of 6-7...again...spectacular timing.

In the 04'-05' playoffs...the Heat swept the Nets 4-0...swept the Wizards 4-0 and lost to Detroit in 7 games (4-3) for a playoff record of 11-4.

So how did you make money?

of course...you didn't make any money...you just made that up like you just made up that you have actually seen them play.

How is that Jeff Posey doing?

Sorry Press....it is kinda hard to sound like you know what you are talking about when you leave yourself so wide open to actual HARD NUMBERS that suggest that you just make up stuff.

 

[PressCoverage]

Did you type all that up before or after your angry PM you sent to me about it? Wow, three personal attacks in one PM... Cool...

Yes, there is a thing called series money line... Pacers i got for something like -180 in 2004, the Pistons last year for very close to even to win the series. I didn't bet on the Wizards or Nets series. Mmm-kay?

Anything else I can help you try to understand? Not a problem, just ask.

 

[Ferretsquig]

Well you seem pretty confident about your opinions despite not knowing a thing about the Heat.

Right now, Indiana is a team that take them to 6 games, and New Jersey is a team that can flat beat them in 7...

Obviously you dont watch much of the NBA....I guess you entertain yourself by trying to post things you know will elicit a negative responce from fans of the team. And please take the personal stuff elsewhere....really nothing more pathetic than people trying to insult each other on a message board.

 

[PressCoverage]

Well you seem pretty confident about your opinions despite not knowing a thing about the Heat.



Obviously you dont watch much of the NBA....I guess you entertain yourself by trying to post things you know will elicit a negative responce from fans of the team. And please take the personal stuff elsewhere....really nothing more pathetic than people trying to insult each other on a message board.

But then, i didn't insult him... I only got him in a lather by merely being realistic about his favorite basketball team... See a difference? I do.... But good luck trying to get him to leave... He thrives on personal stuff...

What, in your opinion, have I shown I don't know about the Heat besides getting a bust's first name wrong? Is that the best evidence you've got?

I suggested they're not playing very inspired basketball right now against good teams... I suggested they desperately need to pick it up, shore up the defense, and get inspired as a team... I don't believe that is deniable....

The Nets have taken 3 of 4 from them, and right now could definitely beat them in a series...