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The Official 2014 Cornfed Thread

I am all for cutting ties with Pouncey as soon as possible. We should have traded him when we had the chance.

This year's line has better talent, coaching, and character. Pass prot and run blocking were infinitely better than what we've seen in the past.
 
It's amazing what balance can do for you. 38 rushing attempts 32 passing attempts and only 1 sack... so about 53.5% run 46.5% pass.
 
DolfanDuBbZ~ said:
Pouncey is able to do things at C that Satele can't.

I'll take the PB.
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We've gone at it before over this one (Pouncey). So hell, let's do it again.

That turd is overrated. Absolutely ridiculous you or anyone (pro bowl voting is absurd) can consider him being a pro bowler in the year we had the worst ever o-line in franchise history. Pouncey made the calls on the line that gave up 58 sacks. Not a typo; 58 sacks. The only thing Pouncey can do, that Satele can't, is smuggle drugs and guns.

If the offensive line continues in it's continuity over the next 4-5 games, Pouncey can go back up his brother in Pittsburgh for all I care. Trade 'em; cut 'em; **** 'em. The guy is trash when it comes to the type of character and unity that is currently being built within this team.
 
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KTOWNFINFAN said:
This is the NFL, the other guys get paid too. If you think you are going to see huge holes like we saw today every week you my friend are in for a rude surprise. Most decent teams have good running days from time to time, but they don't happen game after game. Well not unless you are living in the 1970s watching Csonka and Kick. Our running game will be better than last year, but we didn't reinvent the wheel.
Just keep in mind the old saying, "you are never as good as you think you are after a win, nor as bad as you think you are after a loss".
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On the contrary, you're in for a big surprise. We could spend days/weeks/months/years discussing the spread, but fact is its not just a fancy new way to pass the ball from sideline to sideline. I haven't studied all spreads, but I have spent a good deal of time looking over Kelly's NFL style and essentially Lazor's. It's not a Peyton Manning, so to say, pass to set up the run type offense. It's built for balance, and even more-so, it's built to run and run first. It creates creases and lanes for RB's that can not be made in traditional sets.

Last year the Eagles passed 508 times and ran 500 at 5.1 yds per rush. I don't have the overall NFL numbers in front of me, but I'd dare to say anyone else in the league had a better balance. That's quite remarkable in these days of such a pass-happy league.

We'll continue to have a very good balanced rushing attack. It's not a fluke.

We may not be "reinventing the wheel", but we're riding on some bad ass custom dubs.
 
WVDolphan said:
Now this looks like a group of REAL Decent Cornfed! :up:

A big time LT and a 1st round rookie RT make up the bookends to three interior corn stalks that no one else seemed to want. Shelley Smith did not see much action in St Louis and was allowed to walk. Colledge was not signed until late in the offseason after being released in Arizona. Satele, a veteran C was not even signed until training camp was well under way.

I think these 5 guys did an outstanding job today protecting Ryan Tannehill and opening up a few Knice running lanes for Knowshawn and Miller. In fact, the Phins had not ran the ball that well in a long time. Give a lot of credit to Moreno, but the cornfed earned some praise IMHO.

These guys deserve their own thread this season. If they continue to play like this, I expect the offense to score a lot more points than they did last season.

Finallly, has anyone even mentioned Mike Pouncey's name today? I have not seen one person even bring him up throughout the entire day. I guess no one missed him. Maybe it would have been a good idea to trade him in the offseason. In fact, if the OL continues to play well with Satele in there, why even worry about bringing Pouncey back? For what? I suppose if Satele gets injured we could need Pouncey, but why bother with him if we do not have to? All he can do is come in and mess up a good thing.

I think we are better off without Pouncey's antics honestly. He could be toxic to the chemistry we are trying to build on this offense. Maybe the Broncos could use him. I hear they have players who like to pop a few mollys. Pouncey's services could be appreciated in Colorado.
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Pouncey WILL make the running game EVEN BETTER , he dosent only block his 1st guy But he takes it to the 2nd level , im not saying that satele isnt a good C but Pouncey is more powerful and he knows how to play the C ,maybe we can keep Satele to rotate , if he can play any other possion .Pouncey makes more open holes , and will make our OL even more Stronger than it is.
 
jason_taylor said:
Pouncey WILL make the running game EVEN BETTER , he dosent only block his 1st guy But he takes it to the 2nd level , im not saying that satele isnt a good C but Pouncey is more powerful and he knows how to play the C ,maybe we can keep Satele to rotate , if he can play any other possion .Pouncey makes more open holes , and will make our OL even more Stronger than it is.
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Eh, I'm not buying it. The offensive line is more about trusting the guy next to you and having camaraderie and continuity. I don't feel Pouncey offers that as a team mate. IMO, he's scum. Though, you know what they say about opinions... but right now my beer/chili farts smell wonderful.
 
Sons of Shula said:
Eh, I'm not buying it. The offensive line is more about trusting the guy next to you and having camaraderie and continuity. I don't feel Pouncey offers that as a team mate. IMO, he's scum. Though, you know what they say about opinions... but right now my beer/chili farts smell wonderful.
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Your evaluation is colored by your bias.
 
Pouncey couldn't control the tackles sucking anymore then Tannehill could. The guards being walked into Tannehill lap were not his fault, and if they were.... Tannehill shares the blame with the inability to check out.
 
The question here should be WHERE Pouncy should play when he comes back. If during the next 4 games Satele keeps playing at a high level why not insert Pouncey in one of the OG spots? Pouncey's strengths can be greatly utilized as a guard. Thanks God we have a great O-line coach now that will find a way to play the best 5 guys in the O-line....and I strongly believe that Pouncy is definitely one of out best O-linemen.
 
PHINSfan said:
The question here should be WHERE Pouncy should play when he comes back. If during the next 4 games Satele keeps playing at a high level why not insert Pouncey in one of the OG spots? Pouncey's strengths can be greatly utilized as a guard. Thanks God we have a great O-line coach now that will find a way to play the best 5 guys in the O-line....and I strongly believe that Pouncy is definitely one of out best O-linemen.
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This
 
Just watched Moreno's highlights on NFL.com, for the most part he wasn't getting touched until 3-4 yards. The lone 2 exceptions were him running into Charles Clay, and his touchdown run. That's not going to happen every game (and I've gone on record for awhile talking about how I felt the front 7 of the Pats was overrated) but that almost never happened last year.

Also just wanted to point out WV Albert,Satele, and Colledge were all early draft picks in their own right (1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks) and there's nothing wrong with investing in the OL early. The issue comes in that Parcells, Ireland, and even Sparano just had such an ass backwards view of OL that it was hard to succeed with Jake (when healthy) and Pouncey being the lone exceptions. O-Linemen can't just be big and strong anymore. Absolutely have to be able to move that problem became worse once we moved to an offense predicated on athletic offensive linemen.

Though to be fair WV, it's much easier to stick "anybody" into a ZBS if they've got good technique and/or are athletic since the system asks you more to move with the player you are blocking rather than move them.
 
PHINSfan said:
The question here should be WHERE Pouncy should play when he comes back. If during the next 4 games Satele keeps playing at a high level why not insert Pouncey in one of the OG spots? Pouncey's strengths can be greatly utilized as a guard. Thanks God we have a great O-line coach now that will find a way to play the best 5 guys in the O-line....and I strongly believe that Pouncy is definitely one of out best O-linemen.
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I've always thought Pouncey was out of place at center and should play guard. I also do not deny his generalized upper echelon talent in his football ability to play o-line over some of the current starters we have in place. But, the NFL isn't always about having the best players. It's about having players that play together as the best team; that play as one unit. That's more important on the offensive line than any other personnel grouping.

Hmm, take this possible out of the box scenario. The NBA finals: The Heat clearly had the "best player in the world" with LeBron James. But the best overall team won who played the best team basketball, the Spurs.
 
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