The OFFICIAL "Start Matt Moore next game" Thread

[Vaark]

rent this space, i went and looked up his record vs playoff teams from those years as fins qb.

in 14 games, he is 6-8 vs playoff teams, so u saying he can beat playoff teams, he is not even 500 vs them.

okay I'll play too.

Tannehill
» 6-8: .4285 winning percentage vs playoff teams

Guess Who:
» Overall 15 out of 37: .4054 winning percentage against playoff teams incl POs
» Regular Season: 14 out of 32: .4375 vs winning percentage vs playoff teams
» Postseason: 1 win out of 5: .200 winning percenage vs playoff teams

"he's not even .500 against them" ("them" being formidible teams as born out over 5 playoff games) :idk:

 

[dlockz]

It's really simple. Despite all that he could be better than Ryan Tannehill just like he was better than Chad Henne even though he backed him up. Like Vick is probably better than Geno Smith. I'm willing to concede maybe Moore comes in and plays even worse than Ryan Tannehill but I can't see how folks can think there's no chance the backup is better than the starter even though it's happened before.


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Not sure why people want to change out Tannehill for a guy we all know is at best a backup. People act like he is turning over the ball like crazy and the only reason we lost by 19 points lol

 

[enigmatics]

Not sure why people want to change out Tannehill for a guy we all know is at best a backup. People act like he is turning over the ball like crazy and the only reason we lost by 19 points lol

Who's the "we"? You think you speak for everyone on this matter. It's absurd.

 

[Sons Of Shula]

Not sure why people want to change out Tannehill for a guy we all know is at best a backup.

Who's the "we"? You think you speak for everyone on this matter. It's absurd.

Careful, you're starting to show an emotional attachment. You should be a man of your word.

...don't really care who the QB is because I don't have any kind of attachment to players.

 

[Spiff]

Not sure why people want to change out Tannehill for a guy we all know is at best a backup. People act like he is turning over the ball like crazy and the only reason we lost by 19 points lol

Don't you know? Finheaven knows a lot more than coaches and scouts from 32 NFL teams. That's why! If no coach or scout can see the brilliance of Matt Moore, Finheaven can!

 

[enigmatics]

Careful, you're starting to show an emotional attachment. You should be a man of your word.

 

[enigmatics]

Don't you know? Finheaven knows a lot more than coaches and scouts from 32 NFL teams. That's why! If no coach or scout can see the brilliance of Matt Moore, Finheaven can!

Spoken by a man who has previously criticized Joe Philbin.

 

[Padfoot]

So he is the one holding the offense back, but they lead the league in dropped passes?

Look, he hasn't been good this year. Noone can dispute that. But given that it's Week 3 of the first time he is learning a new offense, I think we are being a bit hasty and dumping him altogether. In my opinion he deserves at least half the season to get his sea legs. The only reason this is even an issue right now is because Philbin is desperate to keep his job, just as Sparano was in his final year. Coaches on the hot seat make rash decisions, even when it isn't in the best interests of the team's longterm future.

I am beginning to lean toward Tannehill not being the answer, but I don't think he is a complete lost cause. He showed some good things at times in the past 2 years. Is he capable of putting it all together, I don't know, but 3 games into a new offense, I don't think its fair to gauge it yet.

Regardless, we aren't going on a magical superbowl run with Matt Moore, so I don't see the point in replacing Tannehill with Moore so early in the season.

The drops don't help, but the Giants have one less drop than the Phins, yet nearly double the amount of points scored. The Colts have 4 less drops, and 37 more points.

A new offense isn't an excuse for his poor pocket movement and awareness. He has struggled with that for a while now and it doesn't look to be improving at all. A new offense also doesn't excuse poor ball placement on basic routes. And it certainly doesn't excuse his continual inability to hit open receivers on deep routes.

Tannehill isn't a rookie and he isn't in his second year. Why should he get an entire half a season just to play better than poor? Right now he is 29th in QB rating, 25th in yards, 29th in completion percentage, last in yards per attempt, and 35 other QBs (plus 1 WR) have completed a pass greater than his longest pass of 30 yards.

I'm fine giving Tannehill another shot against Oakland this week. But he needs to show something this game. I preach against overreacting all the time. But we're not talking about 1 bad game, or a string of mediocre games. If Tannehill plays poorly this week, it will be 4 weeks in a row (6 going back to last season) of bottom of the league quality QB play.

 

[Sons Of Shula]

The drops don't help, but the Giants have one less drop than the Phins, yet nearly double the amount of points scored . The Colts have 4 less drops, and 37 more points.

Just throwing this out there: Giants played Thursday night so their stats will reflect having played 4 games to our 3.

Luck has also had the benefit of being in the 2nd year with his OC Pep Hamilton, you know, the same guy that was also his OC at Stanford.

 

[Spiff]

Spoken by a man who has previously criticized Joe Philbin.

Sure. I believe Joe Philbin is a lousy head coach. There are other lousy coaches in the league right now. But there are also good ones. And if teams rather start Brain Hoyer, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Josh McCown, Chad Henne or Matt Cassell over Matt Moore, what does it tell you? It would be a different story if 3,4 or 5 teams would have made Matt Moore an offer to start for their team. But he received 0 offers, even from QB needy teams. Heck, even the Rams didn't even inquire on him after Bradford went down.

 

[Padfoot]

Just throwing this out there: Giants played Thursday night so their stats will reflect having played 4 games to our 3.

Thanks forgot they played. Although somehow I don't think the Phins are going to score the 50 points needed to catch up.

Edit: And then the phins look like they will show me up on that point so I guess I'll concede that one.

 

[doughbraz54]

Just throwing this out there: Giants played Thursday night so their stats will reflect having played 4 games to our 3.

Luck has also had the benefit of being in the 2nd year with his OC Pep Hamilton, you know, the same guy that was also his OC at Stanford.

I'm sticking by Tannehill....but his OC his first two years was his head coach all through college. Would be better to just say they have Luck who we all know is far superior to anyone we have had in the last 15 years.

 

[Sons Of Shula]

I'm sticking by Tannehill....but his OC his first two years was his head coach all through college. Would be better to just say they have Luck who we all know is far superior to anyone we have had in the last 15 years.

Gotcha. My reply was to the lack of points that we are scoring so far this year in which we obviously have a new OC; Tannehills first offensive system change since undertaking the QB position. Luck has an upper hand of being under the same OC for consecutive seasons. Tannehill also progressed in his second year despite the horrendous o-line conditions. I support Tannehill as well for the time being because you have to understand the learning curve of the offense as a whole in implementing a new system.

 

[dlockz]

Who's the "we"? You think you speak for everyone on this matter. It's absurd.

Well the NFL seems to know he has backup since no one has inquired or made an offer for him. The Rams are sticking with Austin Davis rather than wasting a low draft pick on a guy like Moore. He resigned with us because no teams gave an indication he was going to be any kindof priority. He is a nice backup that's it

 

[DolfanISS]

Don't you know? Finheaven knows a lot more than coaches and scouts from 32 NFL teams. That's why! If no coach or scout can see the brilliance of Matt Moore, Finheaven can!

Or a franchise QB in Ryan Tannehill. Finheaven knows best!