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The Trenches win games.

I think we have issues on dline and online. And we don’t practice enough hitting in practice so we are going to have injury concerns.

Not reacting to this game. This has been my feeling all off season.
It’s been like this for 15 years. O-line gets pushed around in preseason and people call it out and then accused of overreacting because it’s preseason. Regular season comes and the O-line is still iffy and again it’s called an overreaction because it’s still early in the season.

Then miami is ate alive by every good team they play in the trenches which leads to the annual late season collapse and miss playoffs or quickly one and done in the playoffs. Then we all have threads all offseason saying miami should use the entire draft for cornfed lineman and grier does no such thing because the O-line is fine and “we’re more worried about it than he is” and the cycle repeats itself.
 
It’s been like this for 15 years. O-line gets pushed around in preseason and people call it out and then accused of overreacting because it’s preseason. Regular season comes and the O-line is still iffy and again it’s called an overreaction because it’s still early in the season.

Then miami is ate alive by every good team they play in the trenches which leads to the annual late season collapse and miss playoffs or quickly one and done in the playoffs. Then we all have threads all offseason saying miami should use the entire draft for cornfed lineman and grier does no such thing because the O-line is fine and “we’re more worried about it than he is” and the cycle repeats itself.

You can set your watch to it. It would be funny if it didn't make me want to serial clown murder.
 
We practiced against 3 teams this summer. Our #1's went against their ones in a "controlled" environment... The common thread is the first OL played only one series all pre-season, the drive by Tua against the Deadskins. It doesn't look promising with our backups out there, but we have yet to see the real thing play. Keep that in mind.
And neither has the opposition. - LOL
 
There is bad, and then there is our o-line depth.

They were bad LAST YEAR and then lost Hunt and Williams.
OL depth is atrocious across the league... "Huh!! Our backups are baaaaaad!"

Half the damn starters in the NFL aren't even good.

This is not aimed directly at you... It seems like the whole damn forum thinks Fins management should poop good Olinemen.
 
OL depth is atrocious across the league... "Huh!! Our backups are baaaaaad!"

Half the damn starters in the NFL aren't even good.

This is not aimed directly at you... It seems like the whole damn forum thinks Fins management should poop good Olinemen.
Yes but our OL is legitimately not good. Did you not watch how an offense that was scoring around 40 early in the season be reduced to primarily bubble screens by the end of the season? Do you really think its because McD wants to?
 
Grier flat out can't find the right players for the offensive line. Ever. Our o-line looks pretty weak. Driscoll and Eichenberg are all finesse and Liam is on the damn ground way too much. Austin Jackson isn't a physical powerhouse either and Wynn is always injured. Then we have Brewer who is small and currently injured. Robert Jones is mediocre and hasn't looked good the past couple of weeks.
 
Well ,you can’t tell Mike McDummy you need good line play when he needs or wants another RB or wr with 4.3 speed.
We need it all, but if you can't have it all at once where do you start? Some would start with drafts that are 59% trenches until we (arguably) excel at what those units do. Spoiler alert OL and DL bust too. Cap allocation is a similar trade off. Sign a big $ known commodity here means taking on more risk somewhere else. We spend more than average on WR and DB, less on the trenches. It's a choice.

Ultimately I look at this team versus the pre-rebuild team and see a lot of improvement. Not just that but a contender, and if it isn't enough this year then filling in the gaps doesn't seem insurmountable. That is a better spot than I can remember since I started following the Fins closely ~ the Jimmy Johnson era. Do wish JJ had stuck around though.
 
Grier flat out can't find the right players for the offensive line. Ever. Our o-line looks pretty weak. Driscoll and Eichenberg are all finesse and Liam is on the damn ground way too much. Austin Jackson isn't a physical powerhouse either and Wynn is always injured. Then we have Brewer who is small and currently injured. Robert Jones is mediocre and hasn't looked good the past couple of weeks.
We spend less than average on the OL. We spend more than average on WR and DB. I haven't looked at the distribution of draft picks but probably we draft less in the trenches. I am inclined to trust the process because the team feels better now than it did a decade ago.
 
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