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There is no need to draft a QB or even sign one.

The Confessor said:
Well, what you are failing to address is that:

1> QB's grow on trees
b. Picking one in the first round is a sure-fired tried and true avenue to success
3) A first round QB doesn't need anybody else around him. It's a QB league, which means the rest of the guys can just be janitors and snackbar vendors. NONE of it matters as long as you pick a QB very high in the first round. If not, you are destined to exactly 22 years of mediocrity.



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You couldnt be more correct. We need a solid.....I mean solid QB. Someone to win the game and someone who can take the ball down the field in the 4th quarter. Not sure if that QB is available right now, but Flynn is our best shot.

I say we get Philbin, pay Flynn, draft Blackmon in the 1st round and draft a TE and a RG/RT in the 2nd and third. Our defense can hang in there if we can score 25+ points a game. Thats the golden ticket!!
 
Off course, let's be mediocre for another year and not address the position.

I swear some of you like mediocrity.
 
Harry_Bagpipe said:
Lol. Good one marc. But next time you really have to make your thread more out there. There are actually plenty of people who agree with this nonsense. You wanna make a good troll thread, do something like this

http://www.finheaven.com/forums/showthread.php?312207-The-Best-Solution-to-our-Quarterback-Woes

Btw. Make sure you have lebatards coffee waiting for him
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Do you have anything smart or different to add or you just going to call anyone who disagrees with your uninformed opinions a troll? Whether you like it or not, Miami is in rebuilding mode - and because of that, trading away future drafts or signing a player who will be a significant hit on the cap, without any upsize, is silly. You want a quarterback - but other than Luck, who the hell has the upsize? RG3 is out of the question because the team doesn't have enough trading power; Matt Flynn is but a back-up quarterback with two freaking starts that were good, against two teams with abysmal defenses. Other than Steve Young and Matt Schaub, name a quarterback who served in back-up roles and came to other team and did well. There was a reason Flynn wasn't a starter - and signing him to a long-term contract just makes no sense.

Now, you've got holes on the offensive line and defensive back positions that need to be filled. Miami still needs one big-time receiver or tight-end away. That outside linebackers positions need upgrading, too. But we're going to scream for trading everything and future picks for a quarterback or sending a Brink truck to Flynn's driveway? Signs and trades have consequences, and I get that it sucks in the current stage the team is in, but not having a future sucks even more. Besides, what the hell makes RG3 or Flynn so damn special that they warrant trading an entire future away?
 
And those guys contributed with the exception of Fletcher. They tried to address a quarterback problem, but did not succeed most of the time. That sucks. But you don't go from one extreme to another. You don't trade everything to move up because you firstly cannot and secondly RG3 isn't a traditional quarterback. So, that's out of the question. Who exactly do you want at quarterback, then? A cheap but decent QB like Moore, or someone considerably more expensive who might be just as good?


And it's not that they never tried to address the QB problem with the Drew Brees non-signing. They did by signing Culpepper. They just picked the wrong QB. At least, in that case, they had two proven quarterbacks with which to choose from. Who do they have this year as a choice other than Flynn?
 
Marc790 said:
Do you have anything smart or different to add or you just going to call anyone who disagrees with your uninformed opinions a troll? Whether you like it or not, Miami is in rebuilding mode - and because of that, trading away future drafts or signing a player who will be a significant hit on the cap, without any upsize, is silly. You want a quarterback - but other than Luck, who the hell has the upsize? RG3 is out of the question because the team doesn't have enough trading power; Matt Flynn is but a back-up quarterback with two freaking starts that were good, against two teams with abysmal defenses. Other than Steve Young and Matt Schaub, name a quarterback who served in back-up roles and came to other team and did well. There was a reason Flynn wasn't a starter - and signing him to a long-term contract just makes no sense.
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Yeah, he's on the same team as Aaron Rodgers. Oh he can't beat out a QB playing some of the best football seen in over a decade so he must not be that good.....?
 
Sarnics13 said:
Yeah, he's on the same team as Aaron Rodgers. Oh he can't beat out a QB playing some of the best football seen in over a decade so he must not be that good.....?
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And it was because of Rodgers that Flynn was a 7th-round draft pick, too, right?
 
I mean seriously brother, you want to use that argument to state the surety of ineptness of Flynn? I don't know if he is a superstar, but he is on the same team as the best QB in the game right now. The next Dan Marino could be sitting behind him and noone will ever know. They aren't going to start someone over Rodgers no matter what.
 
Marc790 said:
Did you seriously compare a 7th-round draft pick to Brady?
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No, I compared a 7th round pick to a 6th round pick that didn't start due to the superstar QB that was already on the team.

You do know that Brady was drafted in the 6th round don't you?
 
We should absolutely follow the path that the Giants and Jerry Reese took since 2004. Where they considered a team that was "ready to win now" when they mortgaged the future for Eli? Absolutely not. They dealt with the growing pains of a young quarterback for a couple of years, all the while building a team deep on defense and littered with playmakers on offense.
Do what it takes to trade up for RG3 this year (not just for the sake of drafting a first round QB, but because I think he's going to be very good) and spend the next few off seasons building a team with a ton of pass rushers, good dbs and weapons on offense. It's not an overnight fix, but it's the formula for success.
 
Have to disagree with the OP on the basis of we are more than a QB away from being competitive. The NFL changes so drastically every year we could easily be a playoff team next year with or without the addition of a QB

Did anyone think the Broncos were a Von Miller away from being a playoff team last year? Or the Bengals an AJ Green/Andy Dalton? My point is the NFL is unpredictable and teams can get hot or cold regardless of personnel.

I think we have plenty of holes including the QB position, so why wait to address any one of these holes? QB play is not the end all but it is important. If we can get Flynn to compete with Moore and fill other needs via the draft there is not reason to hold back just because "we are more than a QB away"
 
worse thread than the we should have kept sparano one...and i didn't think that was possible...well done op...well done
 
Sarnics13 said:
No, I compared a 7th round pick to a 6th round pick that didn't start due to the superstar QB that was already on the team.

You do know that Brady was drafted in the 6th round don't you?
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Have you seen Flynn's touchdowns in the Lions game? The Lions defense gave most of it away, not the Packers offense. Secondly, why the hell are we getting hard-ons for a 7th-round draft pick? I wouldn't have been that excited, if I were New England, when Brady replaced Bledsoe at first, either. Not every back-up QB is Brady. You comparison holds no water.
 
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