Would they be in the playoffs if they lost to the Jets in week 14 and beat the Steelers in week 17? Simple question. Simple answer.
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Would they be in the playoffs if they lost to the Jets in week 14 and beat the Steelers in week 17? Simple question. Simple answer.
IMO, that is a vastly over rated concept in a game like football. IMO, there should have been more pressure playing against Pitt on the road than the Jets at home. There was more pressure on the last drive against the Patriots than any one drive against the Jets.
I would be more concerned if the Pitt and NE games didn't happen. Those games showed he can carry the team when needed.
By that philosophy, 31 QBs fail every year in their most important game of the year, the game that eliminates them from the playoffs.
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We need coaches that maximize the talent of our players. While I agree that Tannehill's performance is critical, this topic seriously underestimates the value of coaching.
Junc, first off go back and look at the betting lines for the Buffalo game. I see that Awsi as yet to point it out but Buffalo was actually favored in that game. And to pin the blame on Tannehill where he was sacked 7 times and pressured countless other's is flat out ridiculous. No QB could handle that onslaught and his OC did nothing to help him out in terms of playcalling. He just stuck with the same old philosophy that they came up with that week.
As far as the Jets game yes he played like crap. However, he wasn't helped by any means when Hartline was injured. The offensive play calling went down the ****ter after that. Sherman once again proved he can't change up his game plan once something has been taken away.
Second of all you put all of the blame on Tannehill for not making plays but what about the one's where he did and his teammates let him down? You know exactly which plays I'm talking about with Matthews and Wallace. Football is a team game. You of all people should know this because the Yets carried buttfumble to two AFC championship games.
Third and I don't really know if this played a role but Tannehill was horribly inaccurate really for the first time all year in the Jets game. Not just on his long balls but on everything. I have seen that before from him and it was after playing last year when his knee was injured and he had to wear a brace. I'm not saying this is the total cause for his inaccuracy but it could be. To list another player who suffered the same fate, look at what a knee injury did to Flacco this year. Just something to think about.
As far as the Jets game yes he played like crap. However, he wasn't helped by any means when Hartline was injured. The offensive play calling went down the ****ter after that. Sherman once again proved he can't change up his game plan once something has been taken away.
Second of all you put all of the blame on Tannehill for not making plays but what about the one's where he did and his teammates let him down? You know exactly which plays I'm talking about with Matthews and Wallace. Football is a team game. You of all people should know this because the Yets carried buttfumble to two AFC championship games.
Third and I don't really know if this played a role but Tannehill was horribly inaccurate really for the first time all year in the Jets game. Not just on his long balls but on everything. I have seen that before from him and it was after playing last year when his knee was injured and he had to wear a brace. I'm not saying this is the total cause for his inaccuracy but it could be. To list another player who suffered the same fate, look at what a knee injury did to Flacco this year. Just something to think about.
those guys have done it all, they get to have a bad game in that spot. Ryan has done nothing in this league, he doesn't have good play to fall back on where the fans of Pitt and Bal know their teams will be back b/c of the QBs. You guys hope you will have another chance but you don't know and none of those guys lost the last 2 to mediocre/bad teams while leading their O to 7 pts combined.
but you were never in the playoffs, the earlier games put you in a great spot where you needed to win 1 of 2 from 2 mediocre/bad teams and not only did you lose both but you scored 7 total pts.
He wasn't good int he Pitt game so what did it show? that he could throw a pick 6 in a big game? that he could hand off and watch his RB go 60 yds? vs. NE he played great but when the lights were brightest he failed to show. mediocre/bad teams beat teams they shouldn't every year- heck we beat NO and NE, does that mean great things for the future?
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I don't know how many here know of Kimbo, Kim Bokamper, former Phin and local CBS guy. He is a somewhat of a mild mannered guy who does the Philbin show, and the Phins post game for years. He knows the game and our team better than anyone here.
After the Buff game he was upset, first time I saw that, in saying that the entire team was not ready to play.
After the Jets game, he was livid, thought he was gonna blow a gasket, in saying that there is no way we can lose that game we should have won vs a bad team with a questionable QB. There was no excuse on the way this team played.
I put some words in his mouth as I don't recall exactly but, it is very close to what he thought, and said. Never saw him like that but, most definitely agreed.
After the Buff game he was upset, first time I saw that, in saying that the entire team was not ready to play.
After the Jets game, he was livid, thought he was gonna blow a gasket, in saying that there is no way we can lose that game we should have won vs a bad team with a questionable QB. There was no excuse on the way this team played.
I put some words in his mouth as I don't recall exactly but, it is very close to what he thought, and said. Never saw him like that but, most definitely agreed.
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I'm not overly worried about it, Flacco played like **** too but his knee probably played a big part and I think Tannehill suffered a similar injury in the Bills game. The announcers made a good point during the Benglas-Ravens game that with an injury like that its not just the mechanics that suffer, its all you think about during the week so the mental preparation suffers big time too.
Miami was favored by 2.5 on the road at Buffalo.
http://nfl.si.com/2013/12/20/nfl-week-16-betting-odds-lines/
I didn't pin the blame solely on him but he has to lead his team to pts, your D kept you in it and he couldn't even put up a point.
Injuries happen, we played the season w./o our QB, in that game we lost or most important player early in Chris Ivory. he still had plenty of talent to score against us.
he had a bad drop at the end of the half, so what? he needs to make plays but instead threw 3 picks.
No one carried mark to a title game, he stepped up in postseason which is something Ryan couldn't do in weeks 16 & 17.
he was playing so no excuses. Mark was hurt late in 2011 where his play dramatically dipped but he played through pain and is evaluated on how he plays.
Flacco didn't struggle b/c of injury, he lost a ton of weapons from last year and didn't have the great supporting cast he was used to.
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The Bills were favored by game time by at least 1 point, maybe more.
was there a Miami injury? what was the reasoning behind that? regardless of that it is a game Miami has to win and if they don't win that one they certainly have to beat the Jets at home a week later where they were favored by a TD
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Good points. RT may well have been injured in the Jets game but, I've heard nothing saying that. He did miss some throws by yards instead of inches, and it could have come into play.
IF not, I have seen the other "franchise QB's in the making" having bad games but, still finding a way to make some plays to lead their teams. I did not see that in RT the last two games. I still believe he will be the answer but, was not in those last two games.
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Buff was a 1 point favorite here in Miami on game day. I know that as fact after paying $550 to a "local businessman."
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No major injury from what I remember, the weather was nasty though, was really windy and freezing rain.
I give him a pass in the Buffalo game. The o-line was atrocious. I do however wish he would show some more emotion when his linemen **** up. They need to have a fire lit under their asses and sometimes the only person who can do it is the one who is taking the punishment for their ****ty play.
But he did make plays/throws in the Yets game. His WR's just didn't catch the ball. In the immortal words of Giselle "What the **** is he supposed to do, run down field and catch the ball too?" Those two drops were huge and major turning points in the game. Matthews catches that ball and the Yets more than likely don't score to end the half because the Fins would have had the ball with a great chance to score inside the 35 yard line with under 2:00 to play and Wallace's drop left 7 points off the board. Those are major blunders.
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Guessing it was weather related. Buffalo lived on the run and Fins lived on the pass. Plus the Fins o-line was/is no match for Buffalo's d-line.