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This isnt adding up.

All I know is this....

I really dont think the Phins locker room is any different then any other NFL locker room. If its so bad in there....why is it only Jonathan Martin who seems to not be able to handle it.

There is sooooooo much context that is missing from those texts and conversations. How do we know Martin didnt call Incognito a cracker ass cracker? I really think this has turned into the firestorm it is...because of the media..and thats it[/B][/B].


I thought about this too, how do we know this wasnt after a night of drinking in a bar and they were teasing eachother bantering back and forth in the same manner? I can understand that kind of sick sense of humor and sarcasm because the military is full of it. I lived it for 6 years. When there is a brotherhood like the NFL or military (obviously apples and oranges) you would be surprised the type of sarcasm and humor that floats around.
 
What would be good would be to hear the opinions of other players, former and current. This could all be a ploy to win a future lawsuit, but still; given the nature of the VM's with racist connotations, its pretty EASY for the MEDIA to run with it in the regard in which they have.

Why didn't Martin bring this up back then is the underlying question. The underlying answer yet to be revealed is if Philbin knew about this when it first happened.
 
It seems simple to me. Martin had some concerns, went to Philbin in April, things calmed down and then Martin had a mental break down before the Bengals game. He was prob more upset about being moved to RT than anything else. To try and save face he is making this into a bullying incident. I'm sure his parents helped him to that conclusion.

Until I hear he gave the proof to the Dolphins, the txts and voice mails in April or close to April I believe Martin is simply trying to get as large a settlement from the Dolphins/NFL as he possibly can. He knows either way his career is essentially over once he had the melt down.
 
Honestly, there is some sense to the notion that Richie considered Martin a friend and was saying all of those things in jest thinking Martin understood it as ribbing between friends, rather than bullying. Regardless, the things he said were vile, and I would never do that to a friend, but football players live in a different world. Not letting Incognito off the hook, but I am just trying to understand the thought process of Incognito being so aggressive in attacking this story and Schefter's reporting if he knew there was all that dirt out there on him.

The only way it makes sense is if:

A.) Incognito is a delusional sociopath
B.) Incognito thought he had a decent relationship with Martin and had a mistakenly thought that Martin didn't view his harsh ribbing as malicious in nature

In the end, it doesnt matter. Cut Incognito and be done with it. Martin should seek treatment, and I just don't think the NFL is for him. Get them both off the team, and find out how involved leadership was involved with this mess.
 
My two best friends are mexican and black. I am white. We crack racial jokes all the time to each other, because we are that close and know its just how our sarcasm is. We are close enough to know its nothing but a laugh. Context people.
 
Incognito definitely got blindsided by this. I believe he thought they were in fact friends. Richie has just got a horrible, crude sense of humor and has absolutely no idea how to read people. I would bet he treats other players the exact same way, Jonathan Martin might just have some sort of mental instability that tipped him over the edge.
 
My two best friends are mexican and black. I am white. We crack racial jokes all the time to each other, because we are that close and know its just how our sarcasm is. We are close enough to know its nothing but a laugh. Context people.

I am a white Jamaican, I can't repeat the things my black Jamaican friends call me.
 
Incognito definitely got blindsided by this. I believe he thought they were in fact friends. Richie has just got a horrible, crude sense of humor and has absolutely no idea how to read people. I would bet he treats other players the exact same way, Jonathan Martin might just have some sort of mental instability that tipped him over the edge.

this is my guess.
 
yeah, this is just crazy.

With all these holes in the story, and no one really knowing whats going on, can we stop calling for the heads of everyone in our organization? Just a thought...

amen!!!!
 
Yeah, this is just crazy.

With all these holes in the story, and no one really knowing whats going on, can we stop calling for the heads of everyone in our organization? Just a thought...

Some just wait for any excuse to call for others to be fired. Let's clear the air and see how this plays out.

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Anyone consider that Incognito considered Martin a friend and was just dumping on him as a joke? I joke with my friends all the time and might sound mean, but of course don't mean it. I would never use a racial term. I think that is bad taste, but I agree OP it does not add up.

I'm pretty sure my friends and I joke around worse than Incognito does.
 
Knew it was only a matter of time before someone dropped the "my best friend is black" line.

Just so we are clear, two wrongs don't make a right. Just because that is what you and your friends do doesn't mean it is right. Especially in the work place.

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I am a white Jamaican, I can't repeat the things my black Jamaican friends call me.


]Ohall....Canephins here. How goes it man? Long time. Heard you quit the internets
 
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