Please cite specific examples of playcalling, clock mgmt errors and coaching that has cost this team the last 2 years? Keep in mind we had a rookie and 2nd yr QB the last 2 years and he took over a team that hadn't been to postseason since 2006 and hadn't won a postseason game since 2004. Rex has done an outstanding job in his 2 years. He is clearly one of the best HC's in the league.
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Please cite specific examples of playcalling, clock mgmt errors and coaching that has cost this team the last 2 years? Keep in mind we had a rookie and 2nd yr QB the last 2 years and he took over a team that hadn't been to postseason since 2006 and hadn't won a postseason game since 2004. Rex has done an outstanding job in his 2 years. He is clearly one of the best HC's in the league.
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I don't care if it's Rob ... anybody other than Sparano. But if we're not talking about the proven HC's, there are a couple of OC's I'd look at first. Like Brian Schottenheimer (Jets), Clarence Shelman (Chargers), or Joe Philbin (Packers).
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In my opinion it has to be Cowher or Gruden
I think Rob Ryan might cover half the equation because he is a good defensive coordinator but so is Mike Nolan and it did not work out for him to well as a head coach. Same things when we hired Cameron who has done nicely in Baltimore since leaving but could not get it done as a head coach. A head coach requires a different type of leadership than a coordinator and in 2 out of these 3 guys have proven that so Rob Ryan would be another gamble of that happening yet again. Bill Parcells said he would have hired Rex Ryan if Tony Sporano had not already been chosen when he interviewed Rex a few years back. Wonder what Bill would say about hiring Rob Ryann of course he missed our on Tony Sporano too.
Gruden has proven in Tampa he could not get the job done. Not sure how well he worked it out with the Raiders but Tampe was a disaster. Pass!!!!!
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True, but it does not tell the whole story..if you want the facts about the places he coached and how good they were go here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Ryan
or here
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/RyanRo0.htm
Rob Ryan has improved defense's every where he went. Things started going down hill for the raiders, Al Davis made alot of dumb moves including signing Deangelo Hall and then cutting him..
Also Rob Ryan is not just a good head coach just cause he knows d but also because he has coached different posistion on both sides of the ball..He also understand play calling on both sides of the ball...
I also think he is hungry and has a chip on his shoulder, he should have been a head coach by now.
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Huh? You're going to argue that the Jets should have made the SB that last 2 years with Mark Sanchez as the QB? I'd say Rex is probably doing the best coaching job in the league right now...by far. He's not coaching Manning, Brady, Big Ben, Rivers, Brees or anyone in the next level below. He's coaching Mark Sanchez and winning.
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1. Just because you are different from your brother doesn't mean every twin is. Im just saying, not trying to make a case.
2. Rex took this team to two straight AFCCG starting with rookie QB. 2006 Jets D ranked 20th. 2007 ranked 18th and 2008 ranked 16th. Mediocre Ds. 2009 D ranked 1st. 2010 D ranked 3rd. Rex deserves a lot of the credit for sure.
3. Rob Ryans D playing with no secondary. Their top THREE corners are injured. When that happens, it weakens what the coaches can do on D. Even then, that D gave up just 206 total yards, with 6 sacks and an int. They have TEN sacks in two games and two ints, all while their top three corners are either out, or played injured.
All three of your points are just totally wrong (well, Im not going to do any search on ur first point, but I'd bet against it anyways).
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Unless you consider winning the Super Bowl to be getting the job done..oh wait I do.
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That sounds exactly like something Stephen Ross would do.
Billick and Fisher would be a better head coach than Rob Ryan. Rob Ryan is a terrific DC.
I cannot believe that some of you guys are in love with Rex Ryans brother.
No one from the Ryan family will coach the Miami Dolphins if Don Shula has anything to say about it.
Buddy and Don have always hated each other.
I cannot believe that some of you guys are in love with Rex Ryans brother.
No one from the Ryan family will coach the Miami Dolphins if Don Shula has anything to say about it.
Buddy and Don have always hated each other.
There are a lot of coaches who didn't win super bowls at their first stops that did with the second stops.
Bill Belichick with the Browns no super bowls, 3 with the Pats
Tom Coughlin with the Jags no super bowls, 1 with the Giants
Tony Dungy with the Bucs no super bowls, 1 with the Colts
Jon Gruden with the Raiders no super bowls, 1 with the Bucs
Dick Vermeil with the Eagles no super bowls, 1 with the Rams
Chuck Noll with the Rams no super bowls, 4 with the Steelers
Mike Shanahan with the Raiders no super bowls, 2 with the Broncos
Don Shula with the Colts no super bowls, 2 with the Dolphins
Having said all that I would prefer new blood instead of a retread.
And just for the record I think Gruden as a coach is very good. Gruden as a personnel man is just flat out awful. Gruden would most definitely ask for full control of the team and that would just be continued misery for Dolphin fans.
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I agree and the man would draft a qb and pretty much ingnore all other posistions
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Chuck Noll never coached for the Rams, not even as an assistant. I think you're confusing him with Chuck Knox (who never won a super bowl or coached for the Steelers).
Gladly, I think last year's AFC Championship game last year when they were trailing and had first and goal at the Steeler's 2 yard line the play calling was bad. They ran four very vanilla plays including two runs up the middle against one of the best defenses in the league. Very conservative and Pittsburgh knew what they were going to do. Run on first down, throw the next two, run again. Very predictable and easily stuffed.
in 2009 against the colts in the playoffs, they tried to win by throwing the ball and trick plays which got away from their strength which is running the ball. They could have controlled the clock and kept Manning off the field. Sanchez threw 30 times and the leading rusher for NY was Thomas Jones with 16 attempts. I mean who tries to get in a shoot out with Peyton Manning. Terrible game planning in my opinion.
You may not agree with these evaluation, but there is some meat on those bones. It may be a matter of opinion of if these are flaws are not...but I make a reasonable argument which is what I said I could do.
in 2009 against the colts in the playoffs, they tried to win by throwing the ball and trick plays which got away from their strength which is running the ball. They could have controlled the clock and kept Manning off the field. Sanchez threw 30 times and the leading rusher for NY was Thomas Jones with 16 attempts. I mean who tries to get in a shoot out with Peyton Manning. Terrible game planning in my opinion.
You may not agree with these evaluation, but there is some meat on those bones. It may be a matter of opinion of if these are flaws are not...but I make a reasonable argument which is what I said I could do.