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PhinSoldia said:
How so, you anticipate running more Two tight sets? I believer wr are strongest when we run 3 wide, one tight and single back

Clay has proved he can hold the load, I am not into paying Keller 4 or 5 M to play 25-35 percent of the snaps or to take snaps away from Gibson,

overhaul the line, get another back, I'm not with the Madden approach to the TE position. Clay proved he is fine
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Madden approach? I'm not all that familiar with what Madden did with TE's, unless you're taking a dig at me by referring to the video game, in which case I'd advise that I haven't played that ****ty game since I was a kid, when I was able to because I didn't have a real job like most grownups.

The only thing Clay has proven is that he can be taken out of a game by any savvy DC that knows how to game plan for a team with limited resources at WR and no running game. If you add a tall, seam-busting TE that can also block to that equation and it's a whole different story. It creates mismatch nightmares. It adds a whole new dynamic to the offense. You can run both 3 WR sets and 2 TE sets, both of which have proven successful in real life football (not Madden) when you have 2 good TEs.
 
Clay, Keller, Sims, whats his name that came with a free toaster; how much money and space do you want to dedicate to the position?

Its time to try and develop some of these guys, you know, the ones we wasted draft picks on. I know Dion Simms can get on the field. Jesus christ someone coach the behemoth up and draw some plays for the f@cking guy before we move on.

This is the mentality thats killing us, "Next!" No. Relax. Much more bigger fish to fry than TE. Every year with this TE crap. Clay was a monster. Keller showed he could be one if healthy. Give Simms a freagin shot.

Some poster wrote it beautifully and I paraphrase but it was something round the likes of this forum will convince itself we dont need to draft OL #1 by the time the draft gets here. Give that poster a Pulitzer.
 
Make no mistake the loss of Fasano who was a good blocking tight end hurt us
Everyone wants that playmaking tight end yet forgets how valuable a good blocking tight end can be
 
Tuff call on what to do at TE. Clay is a play maker but. cannot block worth a damn, although he could improve. I like Sims, and not about to give up on him. He could be the perfect compliment. No idea what to think of Egnew. He improved but, still barely saw the field.

Don't see Keller as an option or, a top pick (to many other needs). I'm going with what we have, for this team considering our WR's and the WCO, and picking another in the mid rounds.
 
OnDaChainWax said:
Clay, Keller, Sims, whats his name that came with a free toaster; how much money and space do you want to dedicate to the position?

Its time to try and develop some of these guys, you know, the ones we wasted draft picks on. I know Dion Simms can get on the field. Jesus christ someone coach the behemoth up and draw some plays for the f@cking guy before we move on.

This is the mentality thats killing us, "Next!" No. Relax. Much more bigger fish to fry than TE. Every year with this TE crap. Clay was a monster. Keller showed he could be one if healthy. Give Simms a freagin shot.

Some poster wrote it beautifully and I paraphrase but it was something round the likes of this forum will convince itself we dont need to draft OL #1 by the time the draft gets here. Give that poster a Pulitzer.
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So, you are of the mindset that we can only draft OL with the 1st pick, no matter what? Even if it requires reaching for a player and passing up playmaker TEs, LBs, CBs, Ss, WRs, etc.? That's pure desperation and poor drafting. As much as it may pain some to hear, we have more holes than just OL. If one of the stud LTs drops to our spot, by all means, draft him. No need to reach.

Regarding TE, people sure are counting on Keller's return. Do you understand what happened to his knee? He tore 3 of the 4 ligaments in his knee AND dislocated his knee. First off, he's not even resigned at this point. Second, there's no guarantee he can return next season. Lattimore returned more quickly than expected from the same injury, but he was younger with less wear. In other words, I wouldn't count on Keller for anything. I'd like to resign him for veteran depth, but that's about it.
 
OnDaChainWax said:
Clay, Keller, Sims, whats his name that came with a free toaster; how much money and space do you want to dedicate to the position?

Its time to try and develop some of these guys, you know, the ones we wasted draft picks on. I know Dion Simms can get on the field. Jesus christ someone coach the behemoth up and draw some plays for the f@cking guy before we move on.

This is the mentality thats killing us, "Next!" No. Relax. Much more bigger fish to fry than TE. Every year with this TE crap. Clay was a monster. Keller showed he could be one if healthy. Give Simms a freagin shot.

Some poster wrote it beautifully and I paraphrase but it was something round the likes of this forum will convince itself we dont need to draft OL #1 by the time the draft gets here. Give that poster a Pulitzer.
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if we go out and we get brandon albert i will STILL be open to drafting A Taylor Lewan or a Cyrus Kouandjio with the first pick,

Bleacher report(look don't flame me for this...I hate them as much as the next guy) but introduced the idea of signing Alex Mack and moving Pouncey to LG, its a FAR FETCH, but it adds so much athleticism to the point of impact, especially if we plan on running more stretch plays. Drafting Lewan in this mix, makes our Offensive line look a WHOLE lot better

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Asicswrg85 said:
Draft a TE??? Did anyone see our Oline last year?

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if Lewan drops, YES go Oline, but this draft is so OL rich I'm NOT opposed on going with another impact player in the first round, just not TE,
 
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OnDaChainWax said:
Clay, Keller, Sims, whats his name that came with a free toaster; how much money and space do you want to dedicate to the position?

Its time to try and develop some of these guys, you know, the ones we wasted draft picks on. I know Dion Simms can get on the field. Jesus christ someone coach the behemoth up and draw some plays for the f@cking guy before we move on.

This is the mentality thats killing us, "Next!" No. Relax. Much more bigger fish to fry than TE. Every year with this TE crap. Clay was a monster. Keller showed he could be one if healthy. Give Simms a freagin shot.

Some poster wrote it beautifully and I paraphrase but it was something round the likes of this forum will convince itself we dont need to draft OL #1 by the time the draft gets here. Give that poster a Pulitzer.
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Dion Sims is nothing special. Dustin Keller is lucky they didn't have to amputate his freaking leg.

We got nothing at TE. We got an H-Back, a good one. That's it.
 
Asicswrg85 said:
Draft a TE??? Did anyone see our Oline last year?

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You would have to be blind not to see the problems with the O line, however see Gonzo's last post-I think that decsibes best what the thought is.
 
For what my 2 cents is worth: Keep Clay and Sims, draft Fiedorowicz in the second or third round, resign Keller to compete with Egnew. If Keller is healthy it should be Keller, Clay, Fiedorowicz and Sims. Right now we don't know who the OC is going to be, so it's hard to say what role the tight end would play. If Miami ran Kubiak's offense all the tight ends would look better than they did last year. Even Egnew could look decent in that tight end friendly offense.
 
Gonzo said:
Obviously you'd have to release him, because it's against federal law to have two good TEs on the same team. See NE and Hernandez/Gronk.
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You don't have to be a Dick Gonzo, Im just trying to understand the rational in taking snaps away from Clay and stunt his development or Brandon Gibson, and I like when our offense runs 3W
 
Gonzo said:
Obviously you'd have to release him, because it's against federal law to have two good TEs on the same team. See NE and Hernandez/Gronk.
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See that they were able to block. It does make a difference.
 
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