jonanthans
LES f**g MILES
Uh, yeah, thats why you hired the guy to turn around the franchise. Would you prefer to leave the player personell choices to Jeff Ireland?
Top 6 Reasons why Matt Flynn would be our best option at QB
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Uh, yeah, thats why you hired the guy to turn around the franchise. Would you prefer to leave the player personell choices to Jeff Ireland?
Hahaha. Let them compete. Flynn isn't getting beat out by Matt ****ing Moore. Not this millennium.
mikefinfan
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It's all relative here... signing Flynn would be like drafting a new qb because he has what we would consider 1st round talent now...to top it off he has NFL experience vs. 1st team defenses.... RG3, Luck, Tanehill, and Sweden do not...so imho I think Flynn is the better choice for us in the long run... I guess what im trying to say here is that either way quite a bit of money will be going to a qb so why not spend it on a very young qb who has started games before and has a ton of upside.... as opposed to a rookie with just upside and no experience.
Most people can't comprehend all that logic. Nice post.
mikefinfan
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Thanks!....people are just blinded into thinking that drafting a qb is the answer...but its all a toss up, so why not go with experience?
NorFlaFin
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Depends if you believe Flynn is/was worth a 1st round pick. If you believe flynn is/was destined to be an UDFA regardless of "NFL" experience than that's what hes worth.
Thankfully Phillbin knows him best......
Captain Lou
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Peyton Manning had 2 tds and 6 picks in his first 2 starts!
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I didn't say that. My point is there will be competition for his services which will certainly drive up the price. Again, how much money did Kevin Kolb get? $60mil?
3rdandinches
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Never read any where someone said M.Flynn will be a franchise QB, I don't get why the arguement against signing Flynn uses that? I will never understand the comparisons of a traded QB that goes to a different team, with different coaches and a different offense......how does that equal a Free Agent QB that would go with his coach and his offense that he's been in for all his career?
If Philbin believes in Flynn then that's all I need to jump on board, he knows more about Flynn then anyone, period. All top FA's get paid more then their worth, it's the nature of Free Agency but the one and only position I'll never have a problem with over paying is QB.
You can get a starting QB in Flynn and still draft a project QB to develop, makes complete sense to me. You can call it a camp battle if you want but M.Moore is the one having to learn a new system again, on top of the fact that he caves under pressure but let the competition begin!!!
If Philbin believes in Flynn then that's all I need to jump on board, he knows more about Flynn then anyone, period. All top FA's get paid more then their worth, it's the nature of Free Agency but the one and only position I'll never have a problem with over paying is QB.
You can get a starting QB in Flynn and still draft a project QB to develop, makes complete sense to me. You can call it a camp battle if you want but M.Moore is the one having to learn a new system again, on top of the fact that he caves under pressure but let the competition begin!!!
VandyLaw
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This. I'm happy whether the Dolphins sign Flynn or not, and this is why. If the Dolphins go all in on Flynn, it's because Philbin is sold -- not just on 2 games, but on a body of work that includes practice, preparation, consistency, work ethic, camaraderie, habits -- these are the kinds of things that usually end up being the downfall of back-ups who land FA deals and don't make it as starters. Usually, the buyer doesn't have much insight into these qualities -- they just know what the game film shows in a limited number of live auditions. Philbin has worked right alongside Flynn for years now and has great insight into his character, whether he can throw all the routes at practice, whether a locker room would rally behind him. If the Dolphins (and, implicitly, Philbin) are buying, I'm sold. Not that the guy will succeed, but that he has all of the tools and character to do so. If the Dolphins pass, that tells you all you need to know -- there's some hole in his game or character that tells Philbin not to hitch his wagon to Flynn. I've never felt better about a QB in free agency because, whether we sign him or not, it will have been a fully educated decision. Whether we fans want him or not becomes inconsequential, not because of the usual "if you're so much smarter than Jeff Ireland, why aren't you in a FO somewhere?" stuff, but because his OC for his entire career is our head coach.
unfortunately, we need a whole bunch more than a qb to compete with matt moore. we are seriously void in o-line, secondary and pass rusher. we could probably use another big play wr. and we have NO depth at the positions i mentioned, and you have to have depth to get you through a long season and stay consistant.
player cost money and we have this lil thing in the nfl called the SALARY CAP!! we dont have an unlimited cash flow. we have a restricted cash flow.
there is a model in the nfl right now being victims of this very kind of thinking, the indianapolis colts! they spent MASSIVE MONEY on manning to keep him. an OBSCENE amount and they have not been able tp pay quality players to sign with them because of limited cap space and when manning went down? they had mediocre starters and NO depth on the roster and got a 2 win season for it!!
we are not in a position to shell out peyton manning type money, expecially to a 1 game phenom!!
we need to many other pieces. and we need to keep a few we have.
VandyLaw
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OK, I should temper my excitement by acknowledging the one possible negative outcome. Here are the three possibilities, two of which are great in my book:
(1) We sign him. Philbin knows him and believes he's the guy. I love it.
(2) We don't pursue him. Philbin doesn't think he's the guy. We potentially dodge the Scott Mitchell/AJ Feely/Kevin Kolb bullet. I love it.
(3) The bad possibility -- we pursue him hard and don't close the deal, he goes to Seattle and excels. Very sad.
p-double
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#8 he has had only one good game. So the fins are going to give this guy a big payday without any body of work? I don't know
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Here's the thing, many other teams, including some that made the playoffs, are in the same boat. Even the Patriots are a mess on defense and were absolutely terrible up until the playoffs. With more production out of our QB, I think this team is a legit wild card contender. The Bengals have AJ Green and a pretty good defense, but when I look at that team I don't think there's a huge gulf in talent between them and us, and they were able to qualify for a WC in the toughest division in football.
If we had four more points per game, four lousy points, we're looking at a 9-7 or even 10-6 record. Look at the Browns, Broncos and Cowboys games. The Giants game. The second Patriots game. You convert one of those red zone opportunities to seven points instead of three and we're a wild card team. Even with this team's myriad of problems, it's a wild card team. I do think that having a better quarterback gets you those three or four points a game.
Matt Moore showed some good things and played some good ball, all things considered, but he only put up big boy numbers against teams that were beat up or free falling.