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Yr 1 8-8
Yr 2 8-8
Yr 3 11-5
Yr 4 8-8
Yr 5 7-9
Yr 6 4-11-1
Yr 7 10-6
Yr 8 4-12
Yr 9 9-7
Yr 10 10-6
Yr 11 11-5

Playoff record 0-4

That folks is Marvin Lewis' record with Cincinnati. They have a solid team even though most would agree their owner is a dip stick.

Most on this board would have dropped him after those first 2 .500 seasons. His team has dropped to some 4 win seasons but the management has stayed the course. This year they have a solid chance to make a run.

You see building a consistent culture is a process. Oh and Marvin isn't some emotional nut on the sidelines pumping his players up. He's a leader and brings a tremendous knowledge of the game to the table every game and every year.

Winning Super Bowls is freaking hard guys. You don't just buy some free agents have a 2nd year QB and go 14-2 and march thru the playoffs and win the Super Bowl. Great teams are those that year in year out stick to their plan, the players buy in to that system or they can take a hike. Over a period of time if your QB develops you have opportunities to make a run. Even then ITS FOOTBALL AND BAD STUFF HAPPENS.

The patriots went 18-0 only to lose the only game that mattered!!!

Green Bay is great with Rodgers but they've had an off year mainly because of injuries. Doesn't mean fire McCarthy.

John Fox was canned by the Panthers only to catch on with Denver and Peyton f'ing Manning. What do you know he's brilliant.

I believe in Joe and Tannehill. They are the best coach/QB combo this team has had since Marino. It just takes time and maybe more time than anybody including myself likes.

I agree Sherman called some awful plays but his O line was downright awful and the system they REALLY WANT TO RUN CANT BE DONE BECAUSE THE PERSONNEL ISNT QUITE THERE.

Given time like Marvin Lewis, Joe Philbin WILL GET THE MIAMI DOLPHINS IN THE PLAYOFFS WITH A CHANCE TO MAKE IT ALL THE WAY.

It's up to the players to execute, make enough plays, and capitalize on those opportunities. This year they didn't but next year they may
 
Would not want. I'd have to wait until season 9 to get a consistent winner? 5 winning seasons of 11. That's a lot of misery, had enough
 
I like Joe better than Marvin Lewis. Try that on.
 
I'm not a fan of Marvin Lewis. Wouldn't want him coaching here.
 
God please let us aspire to do better than a Marvin Lewis similar HC.
 
I'd like to have a great coach like bellichick too. Oh no he got fired by the Freaking BROWNS. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Boy they made a great move there.

Firing coaches has gotten Miami nowhere just Cincinnati for years before Marvin. Now they have a solid team that plays tough football. They went 8-0 at home this season. 11 wins. Yeah you guys are right who would want that
 
I am not too sure of your choice of comparisons, but I agree strongly with your point. Consistency is a key element in all of this. I find myself torn like many others on this board; wanting to maintain some consistency, but also wondering if Ireland and Philbin are the long term answer.

The fact is, every time we start over, the team is set back a year or two. At some point (Again, I am not sure now is the time) we will have to be patient as fans. When the time comes, if it comes, I do want Ross to clear the board and bring in a GM who can bring in a coach who shares his philosophy and perspective.
 
Maybe Philbin works out maybe he doesn't, but you want to give him 9 yrs just to be able to put together back to back winning seasons?
 
Cutthroat said:
I am not too sure of your choice of comparisons, but I agree strongly with your point. Consistency is a key element in all of this. I find myself torn like many others on this board; wanting to maintain some consistency, but also wondering if Ireland and Philbin are the long term answer.

The fact is, every time we start over, the team is set back a year or two. At some point (Again, I am not sure now is the time) we will have to be patient as fans. When the time comes, if it comes, I do want Ross to clear the board and bring in a GM who can bring in a coach who shares his philosophy and perspective.
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We already have consistency .... losing.
 
Hes been there 11 years! Wow... I knew he has been there too long but you just put it in perspective. Only 4 winning seasons out of 11. Hes been given far too many chances.

Dolfan4life said:
Yr 1 8-8
Yr 2 8-8
Yr 3 11-5
Yr 4 8-8
Yr 5 7-9
Yr 6 4-11-1
Yr 7 10-6
Yr 8 4-12
Yr 9 9-7
Yr 10 10-6
Yr 11 11-5

Playoff record 0-4

That folks is Marvin Lewis' record with Cincinnati. They have a solid team even though most would agree their owner is a dip stick.

Most on this board would have dropped him after those first 2 .500 seasons. His team has dropped to some 4 win seasons but the management has stayed the course. This year they have a solid chance to make a run.

You see building a consistent culture is a process. Oh and Marvin isn't some emotional nut on the sidelines pumping his players up. He's a leader and brings a tremendous knowledge of the game to the table every game and every year.

Winning Super Bowls is freaking hard guys. You don't just buy some free agents have a 2nd year QB and go 14-2 and march thru the playoffs and win the Super Bowl. Great teams are those that year in year out stick to their plan, the players buy in to that system or they can take a hike. Over a period of time if your QB develops you have opportunities to make a run. Even then ITS FOOTBALL AND BAD STUFF HAPPENS.

The patriots went 18-0 only to lose the only game that mattered!!!

Green Bay is great with Rodgers but they've had an off year mainly because of injuries. Doesn't mean fire McCarthy.

John Fox was canned by the Panthers only to catch on with Denver and Peyton f'ing Manning. What do you know he's brilliant.

I believe in Joe and Tannehill. They are the best coach/QB combo this team has had since Marino. It just takes time and maybe more time than anybody including myself likes.

I agree Sherman called some awful plays but his O line was downright awful and the system they REALLY WANT TO RUN CANT BE DONE BECAUSE THE PERSONNEL ISNT QUITE THERE.

Given time like Marvin Lewis, Joe Philbin WILL GET THE MIAMI DOLPHINS IN THE PLAYOFFS WITH A CHANCE TO MAKE IT ALL THE WAY.

It's up to the players to execute, make enough plays, and capitalize on those opportunities. This year they didn't but next year they may
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Marvin Lewis reminds me alot of Jeff Fisher. And I'm not a fan of either guy.
 
tl77 said:
Would not want. I'd have to wait until season 9 to get a consistent winner? 5 winning seasons of 11. That's a lot of misery, had enough
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9 years seems like a long time but Ireland will have been here 7 already if he isn't fired.

I defend Philbin a lot on here but I don't think he's great like a Jim Harbaugh or Bill Belichick, not yet anyway. I think, worst case, Philbin would deliver a similar overall record as Marvin Lewis over the long haul, and hopefully he could be much better. At the end of the day though it'll come down to QB play. I've always felt he'll be a good coach if he marries himself to the right QB and GM with his new team, its highly unlikely to work out in Miami however. Miami will be where he gets his feet wet, learns some valuable lessons and will just be a stepping stone for him.
 
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