Tua Tagovailoa is getting zero respect and that’s wrong

[joenhre]

You should talk about how one looked without considering how the other looked...more often than not.

There's a reason Herbert is on the back 9 daily and Tua is taking Twitter flicks about working out (not with one WR he'll be throwing to) and it not about how Herbert looked against the Pats.

We'll see how that works out for the great Herbert in 2021. I see some crow being served to all those bashing Tua now while putting Hebert on a pedestal. A rookie season does not make an NFL career. Seems many of you are forgetting that.

 

[CSONKA1966]

I think Tua can turn into a great player. Chan clearly had a different game plan for Tua and that is why he is no longer here. We were going to ride Fitz as long as we could. Tua was healthy and able to play much earlier than they thought. So they threw him in the fire and he did ok. Showed so many things, yet there were a few hiccups. That being said, Chans plan for him sucked. He had Grant as his best weapon at times and yet if Grant caught some of his passes that hit him in his hands we were in the playoffs. Watson is a stud and he is a great QB that we can probably get, but I love Tua right now. To make it easier I hope Houston works it out with Watson. We trade out of 3 gain picks and run with Tua. The way Flo has coached the 1st 2 yrs, overachieving talent-wise compared to records, with the draft capital we have and can add from trading back from 3 . Plus a fair amt of free-agent money. It is good time to be a dolphin fan. The Chiefs just released 2 studs on their o-line . We are not that far behind the Bills or the Chiefs but we have a lot of options to improve our team, compared to them. If Tua becomes a top 15 qb next yr with the weapons we can add. We are either looking at the afc championship game or Superbowl. Maybe Buffalo, or KC beats us, but if Flo and Grier play the chips right in our offseason we are right up there with them. Plus if we trade the third pick , which we should. We will have 2 1sts next yr as well

 

[Yoodakine56]

We'll see how that works out for the great Herbert in 2021. I see some crow being served to all those bashing Tua now while putting Hebert on a pedestal. A rookie season does not make an NFL career. Seems many of you are forgetting that.

Yea i dont see why theres so much hating on Tua. Especially from some home team fans. I can see if this was his 3rd or 4th year, but gosh its just 9 games in. I think if you straight up dont like someone, of course you are gonna bash and not give that person the benefit of the doubt. So in Tuas case most people say he had a terrible year, maybe some say he was ok, but there are a few who think realistic, are patient, and judge him as a rookie who is gonna make mistakes here and there while having a glimpse of grasping the offense . I myself thought he did fine as a rookie and have been dissapointed alot on his performances. I also thought he had a harder route than the other 2 rookie QBs because he was on a team who was in playoff contention. Being a rookie with that on the line mustve been difficult to grasp!!! The bottom line, im actually getting used to the hate rather than being put on a pedestal. On year 2 the tides may switch and i believe theres more chance that Tua does better and Herbert stays the same or regress.

 

[Fin_Frenzy_84]

We'll see how that works out for the great Herbert in 2021. I see some crow being served to all those bashing Tua now while putting Hebert on a pedestal. A rookie season does not make an NFL career. Seems many of you are forgetting that.

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We'll see how that works out for the great Herbert in 2021. I see some crow being served to all those bashing Tua now while putting Hebert on a pedestal. A rookie season does not make an NFL career. Seems many of you are forgetting that.

 

[MARINO1384]

Good give the man bulletin board material. Tua isn’t the type that will just roll over and accept. The guy will work harder than anyone else until he gets where he wants to be. If Tua has set the standards for bust material be prepared to have every qb be a bust. Not every player will have a herbert like season.

 

[Mark_J]

A rookie season does not indicate how an NFL player's career arc will trend, absolutely true. Examples of great rookie seasons turn into busts and horrible first seasons trend upward to elite status in a few years.

The questions with Tua will only get answered on the field, until then it's just a lot of excuses for his sub-standard performance over the past season. We're all hoping the game slows down for him and he has a great season this year, until then even the coaching staff doesn't yet know how he will perform this season...

 

[Mach2]

A rookie season does not indicate how an NFL player's career arc will trend, absolutely true. Examples of great rookie seasons turn into busts and horrible first seasons trend upward to elite status in a few years.

The questions with Tua will only get answered on the field, until then it's just a lot of excuses for his sub-standard performance over the past season. We're all hoping the game slows down for him and he has a great season this year, until then even the coaching staff doesn't yet know how he will perform this season...

 

[MarinoEqualsGod]

I honestly don't understand the hate, disrespect and doubt that Tua has on him from the media, fans of other teams and Dolphins fans too.

For years all anyone ever said was how great of a quarterback prospect he was, how he was destined to be the #1 overall pick, how he would for sure be a star and that he was worth "tanking" for. While the Dolphins won't ever say they tanked 2019, and Flores and the team certainly played to win every game, the front office did strip the team enough that I am sure they thought they would be in contention for the top pick and Tua. After Miami won some games everyone was saying how the Dolphins blew their shot at Tua because now he would likely be going to the Bengals. Then Tua got seriously injured and the injury concerns started to grow, understandably, but that was the main reason he fell from being the consensus #1 overall pick right into the Dolphins lap at #5.

It seemed like if Tua could fully recover from the hip injury that people still believed everything that was said prior. He seems to be well on his way to a full recovery and the fact that he was healthy enough to play this last season and at a winning level was very impressive. He also spent all of last offseason rehabbing, not really training his body. This offseason he is back to being able to train and we are already starting to see some of the physical pay off in those photos he posted.

Everyone always seemed to say he had the "It" factor, now that he is with the Dolphins, people are coming out of the woodwork to say he doesn't, with some media people like that Chris Simms or Mike Lombardi saying he never had elite skills and will now be a NFL bust. Colin Cowherd, who changes his mind hourly on everything in the NFL, now claims that Tua does nothing special and doesn't see greatness.

Most people seem to think Tua was awful in 2020. Yet he was 6-3 as a starter, had 11 passing touchdowns and only 5 interceptions, plus another 3 rushing touchdowns in just 9 games. Tua also controlled that game against the Cardinals in a shootout and he was probably the main reason they won that contest. I could understand doubt if he threw more interceptions than touchdowns and looked really bad, but he didn't. His stats were better than Hurts, not all that much different than Burrow and obviously Herbert put up much better stats than anyone (granted his year was all about the stats, just wasn't able to win many games). His rookie year was also better than Josh Allen's rookie year and the media now loves him, but they also gave him three seasons. They only give Tua 9 games.

I actually saw a Twitter poll asking people to rank the top 4 quarterbacks of Burrow, Tua, Herbert and Hurts of what they think their success will be in 2021 and there was a lot of combinations between the top 3 rankings, but ever single one had Tua at #4. Seriously?

I just don't understand how a lot of people thought he was the absolute greatest up until the Dolphins drafted him. Now he is awful and apparently was never good to begin with. I really don't understand the hate.

That, and Joe Burrow had literally the best season by a quarterback in college football history

 

[TannDaMan17]

Talk is cheap, Tua knows he’s got a LOOOOOONG ways to go whether his “supporters” can face reality or not. I’m rooting for the kid, he lacks elite physical talent but hopefully he’s got enough to become a true franchise QB with that supposed great work ethic, time will tell.

 

[fansinceGWilson]

Yea i dont see why theres so much hating on Tua. Especially from some home team fans. I can see if this was his 3rd or 4th year, but gosh its just 9 games in. I think if you straight up dont like someone, of course you are gonna bash and not give that person the benefit of the doubt. So in Tuas case most people say he had a terrible year, maybe some say he was ok, but there are a few who think realistic, are patient, and judge him as a rookie who is gonna make mistakes here and there while having a glimpse of grasping the offense . I myself thought he did fine as a rookie and have been dissapointed alot on his performances. I also thought he had a harder route than the other 2 rookie QBs because he was on a team who was in playoff contention. Being a rookie with that on the line mustve been difficult to grasp!!! The bottom line, im actually getting used to the hate rather than being put on a pedestal. On year 2 the tides may switch and i believe theres more chance that Tua does better and Herbert stays the same or regress.

Some are 'instant results' people,' some fancy themselves HOF evaluators and made their final analysis after 9 games, some didn't want him to begin with, some seem to be in denial a QB's play can be influenced by the players around him. TBF, some of them are consistent. Hunt, Jackson, Kindley, NI, and a few others have proven to need replacement after a whole season.

 

[DannyMcCoy]

Some are 'instant results' people,' some fancy themselves HOF evaluators and made their final analysis after 9 games, some didn't want him to begin with, some seem to be in denial a QB's play can be influenced by the players around him. TBF, some of them are consistent. Hunt, Jackson, Kindley, NI, and a few others have proven to need replacement after a whole season.

Instant results? This fanbase was preaching how he was a qb worth tanking an entire season for to pick him at number 1. After his 9 nfl games, if there was a redraft he would be a 3rd rounder.
And the fact that he was a 5th overall pick it means regardless of if he actually improves, the franchise is going to waste a minimum of 5 years on him. This is after wasting 7 years on an 8th overall pick waiting for him to improve hmwhich he never did.

 

[Rev Kev]

A rookie season does not indicate how an NFL player's career arc will trend, absolutely true. Examples of great rookie seasons turn into busts and horrible first seasons trend upward to elite status in a few years.

The questions with Tua will only get answered on the field, until then it's just a lot of excuses for his sub-standard performance over the past season. We're all hoping the game slows down for him and he has a great season this year, until then even the coaching staff doesn't yet know how he will perform this season...

The game slows down for him??? You are one funny son of a gun

 

[Mark_J]

The game slows down for him??? You are one funny son of a gun

It wasn't a joke, it was game observations. He's got to read those defenses a lot faster than he did...

 

[Geordie]

A rookie season does not indicate how an NFL player's career arc will trend, absolutely true. Examples of great rookie seasons turn into busts and horrible first seasons trend upward to elite status in a few years.

The questions with Tua will only get answered on the field, until then it's just a lot of excuses for his sub-standard performance over the past season. We're all hoping the game slows down for him and he has a great season this year, until then even the coaching staff doesn't yet know how he will perform this season...

What on earth !!

So he was "sub standard" ? To what standard was he sub to ?

He went 6 and 3 as a rookie with no pre-season off the back of major surgery, with standout performances against the Cards, Bengals, Chargers and Pats. If that's "sub standard" give me sub standard every day of the week !

 

[Durango2020]

If we have to get excited and post a video every time a college QB prospect is shown throwing a completion then this forum will become inundated very quickly.