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Tua's 12.2 average yards per completion is pretty good.

For a rookie, he's doing pretty damn solid.
I'll agree he is playing well because his coaches are giving him opportunities to shine. He's a check down machine and uses it often.

That said, he's got a temper and a chip on his shoulder, had it at bama. Guess they like sh*tty people like that up in NE. Will love it when Holland or Phillips paste that ****y fvck to the grass in a couple weeks.
 
Wow thank you for that… glad to know our QB can sling it down field “20 yards”. Such a gun slinger.
He can and has thrown the ball 60 yards in the air. I just feel it necessary to correct people who are completely inaccurate with their posts in a sad attempt to take away from what someone else is saying. If you watch the play instead of talking out your ass, you will see that it was much more than just an easy 10 yard pass down the field....or keep on hating. All good.
 
He can and has thrown the ball 60 yards in the air. I just feel it necessary to correct people who are completely inaccurate with their posts in a sad attempt to take away from what someone else is saying. If you watch the play instead of talking out your ***, you will see that it was much more than just an easy 10 yard pass down the field....or keep on hating. All good.
His pass to Waddle against Baltimore was something like 48 yards in the air...they just don't do it often enough.
 
He can and has thrown the ball 60 yards in the air. I just feel it necessary to correct people who are completely inaccurate with their posts in a sad attempt to take away from what someone else is saying. If you watch the play instead of talking out your ***, you will see that it was much more than just an easy 10 yard pass down the field....or keep on hating. All good.

Right… let me guess… in Alabama? Where all he had to do was throw the ball up and his SUPERSTAR wr’s would make the catch? Why hasnt that translated in the NFL?

People arent talking out of their ass by saying tua doesnt have a strong arm. He hasnt shown it in the NFL consistently. Its not hating, he has struggled to go deep. Is it arm strength? Is it time in the pocket? Is it both?

I have watched much play from this team all season… in fact every game. The offense dinks and dunks all day long. Play calling or tua not wanting to take a chance down field…. Its not hating. Its a fact… he wont go deep. He has time to change that narrative or he will be known as a limited ability qb.

He is already known as injury prone… oh wait is that hating too? Or na?
 
Right… let me guess… in Alabama? Where all he had to do was throw the ball up and his SUPERSTAR wr’s would make the catch? Why hasnt that translated in the NFL?

People arent talking out of their *** by saying tua doesnt have a strong arm. He hasnt shown it in the NFL consistently. Its not hating, he has struggled to go deep. Is it arm strength? Is it time in the pocket? Is it both?

I have watched much play from this team all season… in fact every game. The offense dinks and dunks all day long. Play calling or tua not wanting to take a chance down field…. Its not hating. Its a fact… he wont go deep. He has time to change that narrative or he will be known as a limited ability qb.

He is already known as injury prone… oh wait is that hating too? Or na?
Brissett has a strong arm too....so are you saying it's just Tua? That is what I am reading. I mean the play you inaccurately described to start this whole thing is a perfect example of our reality. He threw a perfect ball immediately 20 yards to a wide open receiver without even much of a drop back and still got completely clobbered. You know that even the fastest wide receivers in the league take 4.2 seconds to run 40 yards in a straight line with no contact or pads/helmet. When you are getting hit in less than 2 seconds, you are not going to see a lot of 60 yard throws. But ya, that is all on the QB.
 
Right… let me guess… in Alabama? Where all he had to do was throw the ball up and his SUPERSTAR wr’s would make the catch? Why hasnt that translated in the NFL?

People arent talking out of their *** by saying tua doesnt have a strong arm. He hasnt shown it in the NFL consistently. Its not hating, he has struggled to go deep. Is it arm strength? Is it time in the pocket? Is it both?

I have watched much play from this team all season… in fact every game. The offense dinks and dunks all day long. Play calling or tua not wanting to take a chance down field…. Its not hating. Its a fact… he wont go deep. He has time to change that narrative or he will be known as a limited ability qb.

He is already known as injury prone… oh wait is that hating too? Or na?

Who else can run a deep route other than waddle? And dont you think most defenses know to shut it down? Gimme a break. Dont know why this is even an argument lol, either you dont know football or youre a true hater
 
Brissett has a strong arm too....so are you saying it's just Tua? That is what I am reading. I mean the play you inaccurately described to start this whole thing is a perfect example of our reality. He threw a perfect ball immediately 20 yards to a wide open receiver without even much of a drop back and still got completely clobbered. You know that even the fastest wide receivers in the league take 4.2 seconds to run 40 yards in a straight line with no contact or pads/helmet. When you are getting hit in less than 2 seconds, you are not going to see a lot of 60 yard throws. But ya, that is all on the QB.
Takes them 4.2 seconds, but the ball is thrown well before the 4.2 mark, to get to the target right at 4.2, especially if you don't have a cannon. Heavy in timing...but Tua knows the timing, he's made those plays, albeit relatively very few as a pro. He's nicked up right now, and basically has been all year except the Patriots game.

He throws to these guys (who, by the way, are NOT NFL #1/#2/#3 receivers) all the time, in game, in practice...he may have some trust issues there. We were all excited about his WR corps going into the season...and they just vanished...except for Waddle, and he can't do it alone. It's a different set of targets every week, makes it a bit tougher to build chemistry/trust. He has made throws, some of which very impressive, that have led me to want to see more, including consistency, especially when I take into account his relative short NFL experience, so I'm good with giving him his time to grow.

Injuries have been very concerning this season, but not last season where he wasn't even 100% recovered from the hip...he was basically healthy for those 10 games. The first injury this year, I don't believe contributes to him being called "injury prone." That situation/hit would've injured most. The finger issue...it seems many QBs play through that, and will be a bit less effective, but they play. I don't believe it's a toughness issue, I believe Flo is just being extra cautious. For being in a health status that prevents him from "making all the throws we needed," he made a few nice, longer passes against the Ravens that really helped seal the win.

It all adds up to a less-than-stellar passing game, particularly when you add the OL in the mix, and what could possibly be a stunted vision from the offensive brain-trust. Making it very hard to get a full read on what Tua can do...if he had a cannon, maybe he could mitigate some of those outside limitations, but there's no way to know. He's never had a cannon, and it hasn't held him back, but he's also never been on a team with this many deficiencies and been expected by the fan-base to cure it all himself.

I'm not defending him...I'm simply saying what I see, and I can't see what I need to without more things going right with the team. I don't need a Fort Knox O-line, but I don't need 3 linemen leading the league in allowed pressure either. Sucks to be stuck with this exact same issue for over a decade.
 
Takes them 4.2 seconds, but the ball is thrown well before the 4.2 mark, to get to the target right at 4.2, especially if you don't have a cannon. Heavy in timing...but Tua knows the timing, he's made those plays, albeit relatively very few as a pro. He's nicked up right now, and basically has been all year except the Patriots game.

He throws to these guys (who, by the way, are NOT NFL #1/#2/#3 receivers) all the time, in game, in practice...he may have some trust issues there. We were all excited about his WR corps going into the season...and they just vanished...except for Waddle, and he can't do it alone. It's a different set of targets every week, makes it a bit tougher to build chemistry/trust. He has made throws, some of which very impressive, that have led me to want to see more, including consistency, especially when I take into account his relative short NFL experience, so I'm good with giving him his time to grow.

Injuries have been very concerning this season, but not last season where he wasn't even 100% recovered from the hip...he was basically healthy for those 10 games. The first injury this year, I don't believe contributes to him being called "injury prone." That situation/hit would've injured most. The finger issue...it seems many QBs play through that, and will be a bit less effective, but they play. I don't believe it's a toughness issue, I believe Flo is just being extra cautious. For being in a health status that prevents him from "making all the throws we needed," he made a few nice, longer passes against the Ravens that really helped seal the win.

It all adds up to a less-than-stellar passing game, particularly when you add the OL in the mix, and what could possibly be a stunted vision from the offensive brain-trust. Making it very hard to get a full read on what Tua can do...if he had a cannon, maybe he could mitigate some of those outside limitations, but there's no way to know. He's never had a cannon, and it hasn't held him back, but he's also never been on a team with this many deficiencies and been expected by the fan-base to cure it all himself.

I'm not defending him...I'm simply saying what I see, and I can't see what I need to without more things going right with the team. I don't need a Fort Knox O-line, but I don't need 3 linemen leading the league in allowed pressure either. Sucks to be stuck with this exact same issue for over a decade.
Tua has an average NFL arm, it is stronger than Drew Brees ever was. Now Tua does need to get into proper mechanics to generate throws QB's with elite "arms" can throw from different platforms. The issues with any QB who has been behind center for us lately is OL protection, no running game, which takes away play action and RPO advantages, receivers in and out of the line up, and bad play calling to name a few. It takes over 3 seconds of protection on a straight drop back and a perfect release by a receiver to complete something even close to 60 yards in the air. We are not getting anywhere near that time to throw. We are getting hit on simple 3 step drop backs consistently, which also does effect what can and can't be called. Until our OL can even approach mediocrity, we are not going to see a lot of deep shots down the field. The big gainers that happen are going to be mostly RAC yards. I agree with a lot of what you said. However there have been a lot of first round QBs drafted lately who have missed significant time already. I think it is more part of the game and luck or lack there of then it is Tua and being injury prone. Also he comes back faster than expected as well, tough kid!
 
Who else can run a deep route other than waddle? And dont you think most defenses know to shut it down? Gimme a break. Dont know why this is even an argument lol, either you dont know football or youre a true hater

You are from Hawaii. Sorry i offended the prodigal son. I get it.

Im not sold on tua, does it make me a a hater? Hmmm i guess. Being real about what we have seen makes me a big hater.

Just remember ryan fitzmagic had pretty much the same issues and never failed to to go deep. He was getting his face ripped off while throwing deep. Yup i dont know anything about football.
 
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Herbert is beginning to look more and more like the guy he replaced. Does very well vs inferior teams, does crappy vs good d's and pads his stats in games where he loses. Fantasy owners unite!
 
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