Tua's Next. Be prepared.

[gregorygrant83]

I think Tua's reading and processing is as good or better than most starting qbs. To me the issue is that Tua is an anticipatory passer at times, throwing to where he expects the wr to be before the wr breaks off the route. This is partly due to compensating for arm strength, but it's not an issue most of the time. Where it becomes a problem is when Tua is thowing to a spot at one time and the wr is either late or early to the spot or runs a different route. Then you have plays where the ball is at point a and the wr is at point b and fans are saying WTF. Those plays aren't always a case of Tua being at fault.

You also have the occasional play where the defender gambles and jumps a route early. If you do that and guess right Tua is often vulnerable. Guess wrong and Miami ends up with a big play. Unfortunately the ones that end up with an int stays in the minds of fans and critics.

 

[fin007]

Guys, I don’t like asparagus.

I mean, I support it as a vegetable, but I just don’t think you can do all that much with it.

It’s not like it’s the central part of a dish. If we’re being honest with ourselves, asparagus needs a dish more than a dish needs asparagus.

I will now go on to repeat that I am not in favor of asparagus in several dozen different ways, and accuse ANYONE who disagrees with me of being unrealistic asparagus lovers who unzip in the frozen foods section.

Is that about what our friend here is doing?

Too good!

 

[JamesWsenior]

If you want to use the argument that Tua's experience will lead to less mental mistakes... I think that arguement could be made.

In terms of his brain receiving and processing information. I do not accept the arguement that our brains speed up and work faster as we age.

Mine does.

What was the question again?

 

[HeyJayOh]

LOL. If this is true, it's interesting that owners have built rosters by suppressing running back salaries and now are regretting letting the literal arms race get out of control.

Some NFL owners discussing potential QB salary cap in wake of escalating market, per report

The idea, however, doesn't appear to have legs

www.cbssports.com

Some NFL owners discussing potential QB salary cap in wake of escalating market, per report
The idea, however, doesn't appear to have legs


By Cody Benjamin
1 hr ago
With every new quarterback contract in the NFL, more eyebrows are raised at the inevitability of record-setting dollar amounts at the position, with even inconsistent and relatively unproven signal-callers commanding historic hauls. The league is well aware of the situation, according to NFL Media, with some team owners privately discussing the possibility of a separate cap on quarterback salaries.

The reasoning, Tom Pelissero explained on "The Rich Eisen Show," is that "at some point you want quarterback numbers to not go over a certain percent of your salary cap."

(Rest of article follows the link above)

 

[JamesWsenior]

LOL. If this is true, it's interesting that owners have built rosters by suppressing running back salaries and now are regretting letting the literal arms race get out of control.

Some NFL owners discussing potential QB salary cap in wake of escalating market, per report

The idea, however, doesn't appear to have legs

www.cbssports.com

Some NFL owners discussing potential QB salary cap in wake of escalating market, per report
The idea, however, doesn't appear to have legs


By Cody Benjamin
1 hr ago
With every new quarterback contract in the NFL, more eyebrows are raised at the inevitability of record-setting dollar amounts at the position, with even inconsistent and relatively unproven signal-callers commanding historic hauls. The league is well aware of the situation, according to NFL Media, with some team owners privately discussing the possibility of a separate cap on quarterback salaries.

The reasoning, Tom Pelissero explained on "The Rich Eisen Show," is that "at some point you want quarterback numbers to not go over a certain percent of your salary cap."

(Rest of article follows the link above)

Why do the collusion thingy when all it takes is some self control.

 

[Travis34]

Guys, I don’t like asparagus.

I mean, I support it as a vegetable, but I just don’t think you can do all that much with it.

It’s not like it’s the central part of a dish. If we’re being honest with ourselves, asparagus needs a dish more than a dish needs asparagus.

I will now go on to repeat that I am not in favor of asparagus in several dozen different ways, and accuse ANYONE who disagrees with me of being unrealistic asparagus lovers who unzip in the frozen foods section.

Is that about what our friend here is doing?

Not an asparagus fan. I've tried it multiple times and no matter how its cooked, just not a fan. Would rather just take a bite out of it raw lol

I have a huge asparagus patch in my backyard that the old man who lived here before me planted. its probably like 6-7 ft wide by like 60 ft wide. It's insane

 

[Travis34]

If you want to use the argument that Tua's experience will lead to less mental mistakes... I think that arguement could be made.

In terms of his brain receiving and processing information. I do not accept the arguement that our brains speed up and work faster as we age.

Well sure, when you're 60-70, youre brain isnt going to be a whole lot faster.

But for a young person to be able to learn new information and process it quicker... yeah... why not? You're acting like the dude is starting to get gray hair

 

[Gsmack_42]

Well sure, when you're 60-70, youre brain isnt going to be a whole lot faster.

But for a young person to be able to learn new information and process it quicker... yeah... why not? You're acting like the dude is starting to get gray hair

Don’t they tell us that the brain doesn’t fully develop until like 25?

 

[fin007]

Nothing “rong” with being a 50-year-old hustla.

 

[Nappy Roots]

You literally took the least important part about the pictures and throwing motion (probably didn’t read the rest) in order to say CK was wrong. The most important part was talking about how coachable Tua is and how he improves in his deficiencies year after year.

That is fair. I did read the rest and I agree with the rest.

 

[Nappy Roots]

Care to explain why?

Because his lower half is the same. The different angles can potentially show different but in relation, they are the same. He does not have a great lower half for producing power, whether its because of limitations and/or necessities, I can't say, but it is not optimal. With that said, he gets around it well enough.

What is different in the actual videos is his upper half. Abdominal length is much better, shoulder tilt is much better. The main reason this could be beneficial is creating quicker power through his throws. Not necessarily needing to wind up when hes a little late on the decision like we've seen. But id like to see more throws to be able to truly verify a difference and not just an instance of a little different throw and angled throw leading to more optimal mechanics.

 

[Sticky Gloves]

I think Tua's reading and processing is as good or better than most starting qbs. To me the issue is that Tua is an anticipatory passer at times, throwing to where he expects the wr to be before the wr breaks off the route. This is partly due to compensating for arm strength, but it's not an issue most of the time. Where it becomes a problem is when Tua is thowing to a spot at one time and the wr is either late or early to the spot or runs a different route. Then you have plays where the ball is at point a and the wr is at point b and fans are saying WTF. Those plays aren't always a case of Tua being at fault.

You also have the occasional play where the defender gambles and jumps a route early. If you do that and guess right Tua is often vulnerable. Guess wrong and Miami ends up with a big play. Unfortunately the ones that end up with an int stays in the minds of fans and critics.

I think Tua's "good processing" is more a product of the scheme. He's more just processing defense pre-snap and throwing to where the holes in the defense should be. He's not really working through progressions. This is just how McDaniel built everything to offset the lack of arm strength. All passes need to come early, with anticipation, and on platform. You can't run a traditional scheme where the QB reads the field, sees someone open, and makes the throw.

 

[Fin Fan in Cali]

I think Tua's "good processing" is more a product of the scheme. He's more just processing defense pre-snap and throwing to where the holes in the defense should be. He's not really working through progressions. This is just how McDaniel built everything to offset the lack of arm strength. All passes need to come early, with anticipation, and on platform. You can't run a traditional scheme where the QB reads the field, sees someone open, and makes the throw.

We will see if Coach McDaniel gets the plays in early enough that Tua has a chance to look over the defense before having to call the play.

 

[rent this space]

Honest question: if Tua's arm strength is so limited, how does he lead the league in air yards? And if it is that weak, does it really matter?

 

[Bob512]

Honest question: if Tua's arm strength is so limited, how does he lead the league in air yards? And if it is that weak, does it really matter?

Tua's arm strength is fine. He isn't the strongest, but he certainly isn't the weakest. In most rankings I have seen, Tua lands in the 10 - 15 range of QB's in terms of arm strength.