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I'm not Dennis Hickey. This isn't exactly how I would draft but a prediction of how I think Hickey will. I think Zack Martin is a future all pro guard, so I don't see him as solid. Also I see Ja'Wuan James as a potential top 10 RT under Benton. I would take Shazier if Miami would have been able to land another starting lineman in free agency. Fleming is not a fit in the ZBS. I see Turner of a fit at guard and he is nowhere near ready to be a starter. I would have signed 4 starters the OL in free agency and draft Shazier and Moncrief with the first 2 picks. But Miami needs another guard and right tackle desperately. Martin and James are perfect fits for this offense and are plug and play guys. High character and 101 starts between them at big schools. I'll take that in a heartbeat over a D2 guard.

I agree with your take on FA. I would have put more priority on signing a RT. I think Fleming can play in a ZBS. He's efficient with his movements and has good awareness. That we're not looking at Zach Martin at OT (which I like) and that we are looking at Kouandjio (which I'm OK with anytime after 50), makes me think Fleming would suit our needs at RT just fine. If you can land Fleming and Trai Turner in RD's 3 and 4, I think you've done great (given failing to land a starting RT in FA).

I'm not willing to give up future value - especially in the 1st 2 RD's - out of desperation. I equate that to opening a new credit account to pay off debt. Most of this comes down to our disagreement on Martin. I'd take Jackson or Su'a-Filo at LG over Martin. I've seen each do it well, and I'm not looking at them at 19. To be a top-20 OG in this class, you need high-end tools (Jonathan Cooper, Mike Iupati, Mike Pouncey), and I don't see anything special with Martin, and he'll have to change positions. To me, he makes no sense for us at 19. If you're picking in the top 20, draft a player who excelled at something similar to what you'll ask him to do in the NFL. This is how we ****ed ourselves with Dion Jordan. If you draft Ryan Shazier, you're going to ask him to do more or less what he did at Ohio State, and our 4-3 WLB left a lot of plays on the field last season. If you draft Marqise Lee, you're going to ask him to play the same position he did at USC, and our offense is lacking a high-end RAC player.

Because we failed to address RT in FA, we do have to address it with a need-based pick in the first three rounds. I don't think we have to address LG in the first three rounds.
 
Moreno/Miller/Mason....3 scat backs on the same team? Great mock, but I don't see how that works. I'd rather go for Terrance West out of Towson, or Carlos Hyde.
 
I agree with your take on FA. I would have put more priority on signing a RT. I think Fleming can play in a ZBS. He's efficient with his movements and has good awareness. That we're not looking at Zach Martin at OT (which I like) and that we are looking at Kouandjio (which I'm OK with anytime after 50), makes me think Fleming would suit our needs at RT just fine. If you can land Fleming and Trai Turner in RD's 3 and 4, I think you've done great (given failing to land a starting RT in FA).

I'm not willing to give up future value - especially in the 1st 2 RD's - out of desperation. I equate that to opening a new credit account to pay off debt. Most of this comes down to our disagreement on Martin. I'd take Jackson or Su'a-Filo at LG over Martin. I've seen each do it well, and I'm not looking at them at 19. To be a top-20 OG in this class, you need high-end tools (Jonathan Cooper, Mike Iupati, Mike Pouncey), and I don't see anything special with Martin, and he'll have to change positions. To me, he makes no sense for us at 19. If you're picking in the top 20, draft a player who excelled at something similar to what you'll ask him to do in the NFL. This is how we ****ed ourselves with Dion Jordan. If you draft Ryan Shazier, you're going to ask him to do more or less what he did at Ohio State, and our 4-3 WLB left a lot of plays on the field last season. If you draft Marqise Lee, you're going to ask him to play the same position he did at USC, and our offense is lacking a high-end RAC player.

Because we failed to address RT in FA, we do have to address it with a need-based pick in the first three rounds. I don't think we have to address LG in the first three rounds.

I really do like Jackson (again more of a power scheme than zone) and love XSF. I had Cyrus Kouandjio rated a 3rd round pick in October before the awful Sugar Bowl and before the medical concerns came out. He has terrible feet and bends at the waist far too much. I believe his best position would be a guard not a tackle. Martin has 2 starts at guard, and sliding down is not a transition at all. Martin's high end tool is his consistency and technique. Put on any of his tapes and you can count on 1 hand every game the negative plays he makes. He may not be a dominant mauler in the run game, or elite pass protector on the edge, but he has no holes in his game and does all the little things really well. I truly believe he is an all-pro guard, and I just found this article with Mike Mayock agreeing with me (I did not read this before claiming I think, Martin is an all-pro. I have plenty of humility and would have gladly admitted it if I piggybacked off Mayock) http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000316213/article/

You bring in Trai Turner and Billy Turner as starters and Tannehill get beaten to submission and turn into David Carr 2.0. MIAMI HAS TO DRAFT A GUARD AND TACKLE IN THE FIRST 2 ROUNDS. Tannehill's future depends on it. You're taking a similar approach to Ireland last year with the lack of commitment to the offensive line. That will get Tannehill killed.

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Moreno/Miller/Mason....3 scat backs on the same team? Great mock, but I don't see how that works. I'd rather go for Terrance West out of Towson, or Carlos Hyde.

I don't know what you have been watching, but Moreno and Mason are not scat backs. They may not be bruisers like Marshawn Lynch, but they pick up plenty of yards after contact and break plenty of tackles.............. Carlos Hyde hit a girl and was suspended. Miami will not draft ANY players with character concerns as long as Hickey/ Philbin are in charge.
 
I'd be ok with this draft. Good solid picks with good value. I'm still hoping that a team in the mid 20's will want to trade up so we can gain an extra 2nd or 3rd.

Perfect Scenario:

Trade down to mid 20's
1st Rd: Xavier Sua' Filo (G UCLA)
2nd Rd: Austin Sefarian Jenkins (TE Washington)
*3rd Rd: Jeremy Hill (RB LSU)

3rd Rd: Micheal Schoefield (RT Michigan)
4th Rd: Shayne Skov (ILB Stanford)
5th Rd: Brandon Coleman ( WR Rutgers)
6th Rd: David Fales (QB San Jose St)
7th Rd: Deanthony Thomas (RB/KR/PR Oregon)

Miami won't have any of the 3 bolded players on their draft board. Hickey will not draft anyone with arrests or suspensions.

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I guarantee you if Taylor Lewan falls to the 19th pick, he is our guy. That's a bit of an overstatement.

I really don't see him falling to #19 in the first place. And Lewan would be the exception to the rule because Ross is obsessed with Michigan and would tell Hickey to draft him. But again I don't see him making it past Baltimore.
 
That's a nice draft. Only player I wouldn't want is JuWan James ... stay away from those Tennessee OL, too much bust potential for my taste.

Martin, Mason and Janis seem like great picks. Of the QB's, I think Murray may be the surprise package. This kid could become a Drew Brees if everything works out for him. But, I'd still not draft a QB this draft.

DaQuan Jones is good value at that point and this draft is very deep at DT despite what the analysts are saying.

Swap out JuWan James for another RT and I'd really like that draft.

Mason will likely not b there for our 3rd round pick, but Sankey and Seastrunk give us options.

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That's a nice draft. Only player I wouldn't want is JuWan James ... stay away from those Tennessee OL, too much bust potential for my taste.

Martin, Mason and Janis seem like great picks. Of the QB's, I think Murray may be the surprise package. This kid could become a Drew Brees if everything works out for him. But, I'd still not draft a QB this draft.

DaQuan Jones is good value at that point and this draft is very deep at DT despite what the analysts are saying.

Swap out JuWan James for another RT and I'd really like that draft.

Mason will likely not b there for our 3rd round pick, but Sankey and Seastrunk give us options.

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I think Hyde and Hill both go before Mason. And he received a 3rd round grade from the draft advisory board. I think there is a good chance he is there. If not Sankey is a good consolation price, although I prefer him in the 4th than 3rd. I encourage you to watch some more film of James. He is team captain, has made 49 starts and is a perfect fit for our offense. He is not a mauler in the run game, but can mirror defenders well ( which is exactly what the zone scheme is all about) and is a very good pass protector for a right tackle, some think he projects better to the left side because of his pass pro skills.
 
If you draft Ryan Shazier, you're going to ask him to do more or less what he did at Ohio State, and our 4-3 WLB left a lot of plays on the field last season.

There is no denying that Wheeler is absolutely terrible. He checked it in after a big pay day. (Why character is such an important part of the evaluation not only in the draft, but as well as free agency) And you do not have to sell me on Shazier. I've said in the draft forum I think day 1 he is the best WILL linebacker in the NFL. If they signed another free agent lineman like Jon Asamoah or Geoff Schwartz then I would say absolutely take Shazier #19. Then you could take Ja'Wuan James at #50 and be set on the OLine. But as bad as Wheeler is, Sam Brenner and Dallas Thomas are even worse options to have in your starting lineup. I have Shazier rated slightly higher than Martin so if OL wasn't an issue Shazier would be the pick. I don't believe in drafting NEED > BPA. Again that's why I said they should have been more aggressive filling out the line in free agency. But given the dearth of talent and leadership on the offensive line, it's clear that Martin should be the pick at this juncture.
 
Miami won't have any of the 3 bolded players on their draft board. Hickey will not draft anyone with arrests or suspensions.

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If Hickey/Philbin have those 3 guys still on the board when they make their picks in those rounds, and if they pass because of character issues then i will not feel confident about this season. Another way to look at it is, this is year 3 of Philbin's tenure and he has to feel the seat getting warm beneath him. Take some chances on players that have the talent to contribute to a run THIS YEAR, because if Philbin isn't around after this season why would he need to worry about the character of the players on this team? Now, if they do make a run into the playoffs and continue to become a consistent winning franchise and create a winning atmosphere down in Miami then Joe should be able to gain the respect to keep his players on the right track.

If the time comes that one of them is not working out for off the field issues then make a decision IF AND WHEN that times comes. Skipping over talent in the draft that would clearly be a steal at that pick of the draft is ludicrous when it may be a one and done season for the staff down there.
 
Miami won't have any of the 3 bolded players on their draft board. Hickey will not draft anyone with arrests or suspensions.

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If Hickey/Philbin have those 3 guys still on the board when they make their picks in those rounds, and if they pass because of character issues then i will not feel confident about this season. Another way to look at it is, this is year 3 of Philbin's tenure and he has to feel the seat getting warm beneath him. Take some chances on players that have the talent to contribute to a run THIS YEAR, because if Philbin isn't around after this season why would he need to worry about the character of the players on this team? Now, if they do make a run into the playoffs and continue to become a consistent winning franchise and create a winning atmosphere down in Miami then Joe should be able to gain the respect to keep his players on the right track.

If the time comes that one of them is not working out for off the field issues then make a decision IF AND WHEN that times comes. Skipping over talent in the draft that would clearly be a steal at that pick of the draft is ludicrous when it may be a one and done season for the staff down there.


Your tape is your floor, and your character is your ceiling. Jeremy Hill raped a 14 year old girl as a senior in high school and sucker punched someone for no apparent reason. He's soft too. Occasionally he runs with power, but he doesn't run behind his pads often enough. Tre Mason plays much bigger than Jeremy Hill. If you want to take a chance on a back with character issues, take Carlos Hyde. At least he lowers the boom and runs with authority.
 
There is no denying that Wheeler is absolutely terrible. He checked it in after a big pay day. (Why character is such an important part of the evaluation not only in the draft, but as well as free agency) And you do not have to sell me on Shazier. I've said in the draft forum I think day 1 he is the best WILL linebacker in the NFL. If they signed another free agent lineman like Jon Asamoah or Geoff Schwartz then I would say absolutely take Shazier #19. Then you could take Ja'Wuan James at #50 and be set on the OLine. But as bad as Wheeler is, Sam Brenner and Dallas Thomas are even worse options to have in your starting lineup. I have Shazier rated slightly higher than Martin so if OL wasn't an issue Shazier would be the pick. I don't believe in drafting NEED > BPA. Again that's why I said they should have been more aggressive filling out the line in free agency. But given the dearth of talent and leadership on the offensive line, it's clear that Martin should be the pick at this juncture.

I got you. Agree to disagree on the approach, but I get it. I wouldn't at all be surprised to see Marqise Lee, Gabe Jackson, and Cameron Fleming as our picks 1-3. I do think we're going WR in one of the first two rounds.
 
#19 LG Zack Martin Notre Dame

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/0ap2000000326617/Breaking-down-Zack-Martin

 

#50 RT Ja'Wuan James Tennessee

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/0ap2000000326626/Breaking-down-Ja-Wuan-James

 

#81 RB Tre Mason Auburn

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap2000000326484/Breaking-down-Tre-Mason

 

#116 DT DaQuan Jones Penn State

 

#155 QB Aaron Murray Georgia

 

#190 WR Jeff Janis Saginaw Valley State

 

#234 FS Brock Vereen Minnesota

 

 

Projected Lineup

 

QB Ryan Tannehill

RB Knowshon Moreno

WR Mike Wallace

WR Brian Hartline

WR Brandon Gibson

TE Charles Clay

LT Branden Albert

LG Zack Martin

C Mike Pouncey

RG Shelley Smith

RT Ja'Waun James

 

LE Cam Wake

DT Randy Starks

NT Earl Mitchell

RE Olivier Vernon

SLB Philip Wheeler

MLB Koa Misi

WLB Dannell Ellerbe

CB Brent Grimes

CB Cortland Finngean

FS Louis Delmas

SS Reshad Jones

I also like this draft ...
 
Wheeler is horrible. Just watch the tape of the Fins vs. Raiders game a couple years ago - he did nothing.

I realize its unreasonable but I hope we go WR in the 1st, then all OL and LB's the rest of the draft.

With a better OL and scheme, Moreno can catch 75 balls out of the backfield and Miller is a 1000 yard back - book it. He got 700 last year with a trash OL.

I would not waste a high pick on a RB like Mason - but I do like West out of Towson as well.

Why waste a 4th on QB? Draft another LB instead and let them all battle to make the team.

If Tanny goes down we are screwed anyway. Never been a Moore or Devlin fan - both are garbage.
 
I got you. Agree to disagree on the approach, but I get it. I wouldn't at all be surprised to see Marqise Lee, Gabe Jackson, and Cameron Fleming as our picks 1-3. I do think we're going WR in one of the first two rounds.

I like Mewhort a lot in the 3rd as well. He can play both guard spots as well as right tackle
 
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