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Was missing on Mike McCoy as big as missing on Drew Brees?

jvw said:
He's not a top 5 coach right now but he is good enough to have that team in the playoffs 2 out of the last 3 yrs and think how RT would have developed under a guy like this....Brees is huge but Brees on a bull**** team could be a short career.....
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I'll concede the point that our quarterback might be developing more quickly if his QB coach for his first 2 years in the NFL wasn't Zac Taylor.

I dunno, I'm still a believer in #17 and I think that in the long run the adversity might even prove good for him. If there's one thing about him that bothers me, it's that he has seemed like a guy who is just happy to be here. And I think that maybe Joe Philbin --probably unwittingly -- might have found the right buttons last week.

You never know what would have happened for us at QB with Mike McCoy. I'll say this, I agree with hoops on the subject of McCoy/Rivers. Rivers looked like he was done his last couple of years under Norv Turner. He was like a poor man's Tony Romo for a stretch of about 18 games there. McCoy has completely rejuvenated him.
 
Would've, could've, should've.
More importantly, who will replace Philbin if this team goes 7-9 this year?
 
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Philbin would look good coaching SD. Rivers is a fantastic QB. Doesn't get the same press as the other elites but he's right up there in my book.
 
No question.....McCoy has SD playing good football. Having a franchise QB is a big help.

Lets see what happens this year.....
 
normaniii said:
I think the Chargers will go to the SB in next 3 years.
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Really? Seriously?

Mudder1310 said:
No one missed on Drew Brees. Look, the guy just came off major surgery to his shoulder, which left all kinds of questions unanswered. No one would guess it would give him a stronger arm. If anything the odd were that he'd be weaker and out of the league. The miss was in signing Culpepper. NO made a big wager on Brees and it paid off.
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Exactly. At the time, there was less risk in semi-mobile QB w/ bad knees than someone in Brees' condition.
 
McCoy is a rising star in the coaching ranks.
 
It was definitely a miss. I wanted McCoy. Between McCoy and philbin, I found McCoy to be by far the more accomplished and interesting choice. The man made Jake Delhomme look like a competent nfl qb, that single miracle was worth more than any part of the much older Philbin's uninspiring career whose pinnacle was being an oc who doesn't call plays. I believe Hayden Fox was the only regular poster who really stood up for McCoy and he wound up receiving endless grief for it. People tore into anyone who wasn't behind the philbin hire. The majority was very wrong. It's moments like this that should make most of you reflect on yourselves and realize how full of **** you are.
 
Interesting debate, but I want to look at it from a different perspective. It's pretty easy to see that both Brees and McCoy were the right choices. But lets jump in a time machine and make those choices then Brees was the obvious choice but he had an injury to his throwing arm that to that point no qb had ever came back from. I really wanted Brees but at the time if my medical personal told me it was less than a 50/50 chance he would fully recover, then I am going to take Culpepper as well. I really don't blame that decision on Saban, that was on the medical staff.
As for Philbin, whoever made that choice either can't judge people, or doesn't understand the job description of NFL HC. I said the very first time I heard Philbin speak that I doubted his leadership qualities, and he has reinforced that theory ever since. He is not a leader and this team will never win a superbowl under him. He could take over the Seahawks today and I would eliminate them from my list of superbowl contenders. He has a solid football mind but he is no leader

So I think the McCoy blunder was a bigger mistake, not due just to results but due to the information at hand
 
So we're already inducting McKoy into the hall based on backing into the playoffs with arguably the best QB to have never won a SuperBowl, and beating Andy Dalton in the playoffs, or should I say just allowing Dalton to do his thing?
 
roy_miami said:
So we're already inducting McKoy into the hall based on backing into the playoffs with arguably the best QB to have never won a SuperBowl, and beating Andy Dalton in the playoffs, or should I say just allowing Dalton to do his thing?
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Or the even more playoff win-futile Marvin Lewis
 
Way too early to anoint McCoy anything. Rich Kotite started out very strong for Philly and we all know how that story ended.
 
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