New England hasn't beaten anybody yet, the Jets haven't beaten anybody yet. I think it wouldn't matter who the Bills beat you still wouldn't give them any credit.
I know who they've played, I know how the teams the Bills have played this year are playing. They stink, they all have less wins then loses. It's not rocket science. If the Bills had faced the Cowboys and Eagles this year and beat both of those teams easily, then that would be proof the Bills are winning games that tough to win. But the Raiders and Jags and Seahwaks are nowhere's near the top teams right now. Thier statistics and rankings prove that.
You realize your logic is flawed, right? If the Bills had beaten the Eagles instead of the Jags in week 2, the Eagles would be 1-2 and thus a team that "stinks" and "have less wins then losses". The reason the Jags are 1-2 is because they lost to two undefeated division-leading teams.
Well you're entitled to your opinion, but good teams don't struglle against bad teams at home, good teams are good because they win easily against bad teams at home.
Again you're entitled to your opinion, but YES there is more to games then wins and loses. Like I said bad teams win games, good teams win games. What seperates these two two teams? It's not simply the words "good" and "bad" what is the difference? Obviously good teams are good for a reason and bad teams are bad for a reason, that's why there is more to games then simply wins and loses. Coaches, GM's , scoutt's and owners all contribute to the wins and losses.
If Matt Millen can stand their and watch his team win a game and Indy GM Bill Polian can watch his team win a game obviously winning happens with every team. The difference is, one GM has far more succes watching his team win then the other, obviously there's more to winning and losing then just the wins and losses.
They do mean something, but are you seriously putting Edwards on the same level as Marino? Lets be logical about what you're trying to suggest here. Marino, had how many 400 yard passing games in his career? He has/had how many NFL records? How many Pro bowls? Seriously, you are obviously ignoring what happend the first three qtrs of that Raiders game and focusing soley on the one positive thing Trent did in the Raiders game.
Trent did nothing in the last two games till both the Jags and Raiders went to a prevent defense. The DB's suddenly backed off the WR and the front 7 was brining far less pressure, no blitzing. So all Trent had to do was stand in the shotgun and find one guy 10 or 15 yards down the firld and throw him the ball. I'm not knocking Trent, he did what was supposed to do. The difference is why couldn't trent do the same thing when the pressure was on? You can see whatever you want to see, but Philip Rivers and Tony Romo and Donavan McNabb can move their team down the filed in any qtr against any defense, why isn't Trent doing this??
So because the Giants struggled with Bengals at home that means they're not good?
Because the '72 Dolphins barely beat a terrible Bills team twice means they weren't good?
I think the good teams "win" the games they should. They find a way to win.
Just like to mention I'm not comparing our team to the '72 Dolphins or the '07 Giants
I'm not surprised Bill fans such as you feel that way. However it doesn't matter to me if Bill fans are bother by this. I'm just one preson with an opinion.
I guess the points we differ on is the Jags, and to an extent, the Seahawks. To me, winning at Jacksonville was impressive and worthy of praise. I didn't see that coming at all, and I think the Jags are a really good team. It wouldn't surprise me at all if they won the South; knocking off the Colts in their house is big. The Seahawks have been poor this year, but they did beat them by something like 24 points.I'm just not convinced the Bills have done anything worthy of praise considering how their competition has played in the first three weeks.
I guess the points we differ on is the Jags, and to an extent, the Seahawks. To me, winning at Jacksonville was impressive and worthy of praise. I didn't see that coming at all, and I think the Jags are a really good team. It wouldn't surprise me at all if they won the South; knocking off the Colts in their house is big. The Seahawks have been poor this year, but they did beat them by something like 24 points.
Must be tough on you Jets fans. You criticize my perspective on giving the Bills credit. Though in other posts you're slurping the Jets and they're 1-2 record. I'm just one person with an opinion on this.
For your information, I don't support Jets, I don't support the Pats, but both those teams make it to the playoffs, they win against good teams. They spend money and make an effort to imporve yearly. The BIlls don't, they don't make the playoffs, they don't beat the good teams and they very seldom spend money. Infact they constantly spend the least in the division and they're also the team in the division with the longest streak without a winning season and playoff berth.
As for you the only time you post is in this Beast of the East and you only defned the Bills. It's clear you're a Bill fan pretending to be a Dolphin fan, why? Who knows. But there was a huge Dolphin win this weekend and I have not seen you post one word in any other thread about the game this past weekend, but here you are defending the Bills. I find it odd that all you do is defend the Bills and yet have nothing to say about the Dolphins, except maybe a word ort two while defending the Bills.
BTW I went through your history of posts and you have not had won single post discussing the big win the Dolphins had, Ronnie Browns 5 TD day or Joey Portes 3 sacks and 1 forced fumble. NOT ONE WORD. I can't imagine joing a Dolphin site, seeing the Dolphins have the biggest win they've had in the last 19 games and having not one word to say about it, but one single Dolphin fan not believeing in the Bills, (of all teams) and this makes you want to jump right into the conversation and tell me how you're simply trying to be fair! Yeah, right. I think it's clear you're not a Dolphin fan.
I am wondering if Spurz still feels the same way.....Farve was pretty brutal last night while Edwards is looking pretty good with 2 comebacks in his last 3 games.
Nothing positive to say, I've never seen a team do less yet get so much credit. The Bills played three teams so far that are all 2 games below 500. AND IT'S ONLY WEEK 3!!!!! Yet the Bill fans talk as if the Bills beat the 07 PAT's, the 2000 Ravens and the 72 Dolphins back to back to back. Give me a break. The Bills are the only team in the diuvision yet to play a division rival while each of the Pats, Jet's and Dolphins have each played 2 division games.
The Bills couldn't have drawn an easier schedule to start the year if they tried. But to listen to Bill fans you'd think the Bills had done something woth talking about. I have yet to see one Bill fan come here and talk about how weak the teams are they've played so far, but Bill fans will pretend they played the best in the league. What's worse, the Bill fans expect everyone else to think the Bills have had a tough three games.
Look out the Bills have yet another tough tough game! The almighty 0-3 Rams, they've only given up 116 points in three games while scoring a whopping 29 points. They will be another moster test for the Bills. That would mean that the 4 teams the Bills have played in the first 4 games those teams are all of 3-12 what a rough stretch of games to have to battle through. :rolleyes2:
Why are they under .500?
Ohhh because the Bills beat them all. If they didn't, they're all over .500. Think before you say things.