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we dont know if ronnie will be good.
LET HIM PLAY FIRST.
stop with the ronnie is future crap.
he could be a bust for all we know.

oh btw come 9/11 our best RB on the team wont even be in dolphins stadium.
 
ohall said:
...these concrete opinions some of you are forming during the pre-season is absolutely silly!
you wouldn't be referring to the numerous "IT IS OFFICIAL (insert name here) SUCKS" threads would ya? ;)
 
NJPHINFAN said:
you wouldn't be referring to the numerous "IT IS OFFICIAL (insert name here) SUCKS" threads would ya? ;)

No of course not!

:couch:

lol :D
 
death7star said:
we dont know if ronnie will be good.
LET HIM PLAY FIRST.
stop with the ronnie is future crap.
he could be a bust for all we know.

oh btw come 9/11 our best RB on the team wont even be in dolphins stadium.

You don't know that either. Ronnie may be our BEST HB. Only time will tell.
 
ohall said:
You don't know that either. Ronnie may be our BEST HB. Only time will tell.

Some people on this board should stick to making threads to why weed makes people smarter.
 
From what I've read, Miami improved in all areas, Daniels looked good, the weakest link was qb, Frerotte didn't play too well, very average at best, but Feeley was just horrible. I'll say this though, some of you guys are way too fickle, damn last week it was the Guskateers, Gus rules, this and that, now Gus sucks!. Come on, I didn't like how he played but at least he's throwing to the playmakers on the field, Chambers, Boston,etc. Feeley doesn't do that, I don't know where this lack of talent thing you're talking about, maybe o-line but it's still improve, this doesn't happen over night, ya know. We have three more preseason games, I'm still holding judgement on Gus at least, because if he plays well next week, there's going to be another parade on this forum, all hail Gus! but seriously I want to see more, it just could have been a bad game, or it could be him, but he'll probably start next week too. WE have a nice compliment of Wr, I don't know where the lack of talent on offense is, Chambers, Boston is coming back, he didn;t have the ball thrown his way in the game though but this is preseason, wrs don't get much balls thrown their way, and Booker compleents both guys because he would be great running the slot, he will be fine in the linehan's system, the best group of Wrs are the one's that compliment each other, you don't want all speedy small receivers, becuase even if they are really talented, a good coach and D, can real take them for a loop, NE was physical with Indys receivers who were all fast but small, so they were getting jammed at the line of scrimmage, or bumped off routes messing up the timing which the Indys offense is based on, a great offense that it is. You want receivers to vary a little. I think it would be best for Chambers and Boston to the outside and Booker in the slot, he would be a really good possesion receiver, and he can run like a rb after the catch. All these guys have size too, and Chambers and Boston have the combo, size speed. These guys won't be jammes too easily, especially 228lb Boston. most dbs are like 195-200. Oh yeah I forgot about McMichael, Diamond is looking good too. I agree, I'm not happy with the performance of the qbs, but I want to see more, atleast from Ferotte before assuming anything.
 
I am not going to say your oppinion is wrong however once you say a guy like Schulters will not be good this year or any year I really have to discredit everything you say. Ripping apart a top notch safety based on 2 pre season games is not very wise or football minded. I refuse to say we will be a playoff team or a bust but lets be completely fair....

QBs-Pathetic needs no explaination

RBs-Besides Ronnie and Ricky who are question marks also are pathetic Overall= ? lets see about Ronnie and Ricky

FB- Evans is damn good and Martin might be better...overall=good

WRs-Chambers=solid #2, Booker=decent #2, Boston=great #3, Thompson= Good #4 Overall= good ,WR would be great if we had a standout #1

TEs-McMichal=excellent the rest are ok.....Overall good

OLine- This line has POTENTIAL no they will not be great this year but they will at least be average and could develop into a great line in years to come...Overall average

DLine- I cant understand people bashing our DL. JT is spectacular, Kevin Carter is spectacular, Vonnie Holiday is very good, Traylor was god in NE now that he is here people think he is bad, c'mon. Zgonia is a very decent spot player, Chester is a unbelievable back up to have, Roth is unproven but is a 1st round talent. People, this DL is awesome its one of our most solid postions look around the league how many teams have a line like this be realistic.,..Overall= great

LB- alright lets hear everyone rip apart Thomas, how many times does is this guy not ranked as one of the top tacklers in the league? Thomas is spectacular and anyone who says otherwise is either stupid, can't evaluate talent or is being to hard on him because you dont' want to be known as a homer. Seau is old but he is still Seau. He is not what he used to be, hell he isnt even a MLB anymore but as a blitzing LB he is very good. Spragan was solid last year and is still solid. Crowder has played well and was also a 1st round talent. There are definitley worse people to have as a backup than Eddie Moore or Pope. Overall=Good

CB- Once again lets rip apart Madison a top CB for years and say he did so bad last year and this and that. Of course he didn't look as good the last few years but c'mon people threw at him because they didn't want to throw at Surtain. Madison is a very good CB people will not be throwing at him to often this year which makes him pretty damn valuable. Travis Daniels has played pretty well considering he is a rookie. Rookies don't come in and dominate, they do make plenty of mental errors that let up big plays but give him some time he has only played TWO yes TWO PRESEASON games. Watch, Daniels will be a good CB and it will be fun to watch him and Poole in years to come. Reggie Howard is a pretty darn good nickle CB, he started on a SB defense that was the heart of that team. Yes he will get beat by top notch WR but against 3rd or TE he is a quality player. The problem here is depth after these guys the rest are garbage and every team has injuries. Overall= no injury/Good with injury/average(look at most of the leagues CB they arent that much better)

SS- Travares Tillman is not good he should not be lining up with 1st team however Tebucky Jones IS good and will be lining up with 1st team every player has weaknesses but look at jones and compare hime to the other ss around the league he is definitly one of the better ones out there. Bua is unproven and nobody could state that he is good yet so once again if the injury bug bites were are bad but if not we are average to good

FS- Lance Schulters is spectacular, he always has been and will be for awhile to put him down is down right wrong he will be very good for us. Bell not much to say but he is definitly not a bad backup and could develop to a starter. overall= good

I have left out many people(vickerson, glenn, wright) but forget about them. They are all question marks. Anybody with football sense knows that preseason means nothing...here is a question, why is it that most SB winners have a bad preseason record? Just wondering, how is it that people are so sure we are pathetic without ever seeing some of these guys play a NFL game? Why is it that guys like Carter, Schulters,Traylor, Mcdougle, Middleton, and Booker were known as stars but now that they are here they are ok or have to many weaknesses? How is it that people know that we will be bad without even having a clue what Saban will throw at teams when the season starts? We have no idea how good of a coach Saban is but if he runs a good system ala NE this team will be good compare our lineup with NE specifically our defense could you honestly tell me that a guy like Brusci is better than Thomas, player for player our defense is twice as good, but once again its all about the system. Compare their WR to ours... c'mon. Compare their entire team (including their no name lineman). I am using them because they won the SB(a few times). Now before everyone gets their panties in a bunch I am in no way saying we are SB bound. QB is way to important of a position and ours is pathetic but give this team a QB and this team is pretty damn solid. So rip apart our QB, critique our postions to see how we can improve but c'mon lets not be anti-homers just so when our team doesn't have a great season we can say I told you so.
 
I don't believe we are in trouble at all. I believe this is a developmental year, but our fan base's expectations are set way too high. It's time for the Dolphins to get some of our drafted talent playing so our salary cap is low. Then with some extra loot sign the killer free-agents we need to make a deep playoff run. It's starting this year, I think we will be a tough team to play against by next season, and hopefully a strong contender by the season after that.
 
jzolnowski said:
We have no idea how good of a coach Saban is but if he runs a good system ala NE this team will be good compare our lineup with NE specifically our defense could you honestly tell me that a guy like Brusci is better than Thomas, player for player our defense is twice as good, but once again its all about the system. Compare their WR to ours... c'mon. Compare their entire team (including their no name lineman). I am using them because they won the SB(a few times). Now before everyone gets their panties in a bunch I am in no way saying we are SB bound. QB is way to important of a position and ours is pathetic but give this team a QB and this team is pretty damn solid. So rip apart our QB, critique our postions to see how we can improve but c'mon lets not be anti-homers just so when our team doesn't have a great season we can say I told you so.

New England's roster is heads and shoulders above Miami's. Such a statement is laughable.

The have a HOF QB, an offensive line that gives Brady hours back there, the best WR's (1-5 as a group) in the division.

Their defense is loaded with talent and to say that your secondary is comparable to a team that SHUT DOWN THE COLTS in the playoffs is hilarious.

:lol:
 
First of all buddy I already told you that our QB sucked so lets not go there second of all compare there secondary minus LAW with ours go ahead Im interested to see how off base you are. 3rd there WRs 1-5 were not goign by madden ratings. I take our top 4 over theirs any day please compare them Id love to see it. Their 5th WR has so much impact your right. Who cares who their 5th is he sees the field barely at best. Oh yeah and maybe I wasn't as clear I am not saying there OL is bad I am just saying that they are unknowns kind of like our guys. I will go on to say that Mcdougle and Middleton would be a starter on there team. So once again I agree their QB is what makes them night and day better than us and Ill even say that their line is polished and ours not so their line is definitly better. But please compare the D to ours Id like to see it.
 
Actually Ill do it for you.....

DE-Jason Taylor or Richard Seymore=JT
DT-Vonnie Holiday or Vince Woolfork=VH
DT-Keith Traylor or Ethan Kelly-KT
DE-Kevin Carter or Jarvis Green=KC
OLB-Junior Seau or Willie Mcginist=DRAW
MLB-Zach Thomas or Chad Brown=ZT
MLB-Channing Crowder or Monty Biesel=DRAW 1bad and the other unproven
OLB-Donnie Spragan or Mike Vrabel=MV
CB-Sam Madison or Asante Samuel=SM
CB-Travis Daniels or Randall Gay=Who Knows
SS-Tebucky Jones or Rodney Harrison=RH
FS-Lance Schulters or Eugene Wilson=LS

To Me I See A 7-2-3 based on starters
 
jzolnowski said:
First of all buddy I already told you that our QB sucked so lets not go there second of all compare there secondary minus LAW with ours go ahead Im interested to see how off base you are. 3rd there WRs 1-5 were not goign by madden ratings. I take our top 4 over theirs any day please compare them Id love to see it. Their 5th WR has so much impact your right. Who cares who their 5th is he sees the field barely at best. Oh yeah and maybe I wasn't as clear I am not saying there OL is bad I am just saying that they are unknowns kind of like our guys. I will go on to say that Mcdougle and Middleton would be a starter on there team. So once again I agree their QB is what makes them night and day better than us and Ill even say that their line is polished and ours not so their line is definitly better. But please compare the D to ours Id like to see it.

You did mention that their QB was better but then you went on to say, "Compare their entire team."

It sucks to say this but Brady vaults the entire Pats roster over the rest of the AFC East. That's what great QB's do, they make the entire team better.

As far as comparing secondaries, there is no need. The Pats lost Law and had injuries throughout their secondary but still won their 3rd SB in 4 years. Rodney Harrison is an animal and you don't have anyone comparable.
 
You are right I should have stated minus QB I was wrong to say entire team. I agree with you thats why I think the Fins will be bad and the pats will be good. But I disagree on the secondary Harrison is a beast but one man doesnt make an entire secondary.
 
jzolnowski said:
Actually Ill do it for you.....

DE-Jason Taylor or Richard Seymore=JT
DT-Vonnie Holiday or Vince Woolfork=VH
DT-Keith Traylor or Ethan Kelly-KT
DE-Kevin Carter or Jarvis Green=KC
OLB-Junior Seau or Willie Mcginist=DRAW
MLB-Zach Thomas or Chad Brown=ZT
MLB-Channing Crowder or Monty Biesel=DRAW 1bad and the other unproven
OLB-Donnie Spragan or Mike Vrabel=MV
CB-Sam Madison or Asante Samuel=SM
CB-Travis Daniels or Randall Gay=Who Knows
SS-Tebucky Jones or Rodney Harrison=RH
FS-Lance Schulters or Eugene Wilson=LS

To Me I See A 7-2-3 based on starters

See ya in the Superbowl....

:lol:
 
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