What's so great about Philbin?

[El Calebra]

I just think back to the coaching search. They said Philbin was the best prepared candidate they had ever interviewed. I can't quote that exactly or who exactly said it. But it was apparent they were impressed.
Maybe he really is the guy?
I am for giving him the opportunity.
But, I am also disappointed in how the team handled the last two games. I have to put the bulls eye right on Philbin's back for that. It is unacceptable to fold like they did. Fold with so much on the line.

 

[dolfan91]

Very insightful post. I think you are 100% correct in Philbin's ability to recognize problems. He just didn't get the support from Ireland he needed. Imagine how much better the team would have been with a better Offensive Line!!!

 

[Patrick_Bateman]

I do not understand the allegiance to a coach who has a 2 year record of 15- 17.

To me that kind of record is the worse possible record in the NFL. We are better off going 4 -12 then 7-9 or 8-8.

I am fine with Philbin IF the GM wants Philbin - for whatever reason. But it does not make sense to me to have steadfast allegiance to him or Aponte or anyone else if the right person or scenario emerges that looks like it holds great promise for our franchise.

Don't know, that's a question for Ross since it was basically his choice. I was mostly indifferent to him all year, although near the end I've started to sour a bit - but he's entering next year on a super hot seat so I hope he does well under extreme pressure, better than meatball did

 

[Phindog]

I've noticed how you gave thumbs down to people in this thread who don't like Philbin. I here i was looking for your posts to see what your opinion was. I'm disappointed in your response quick frankly. Your reference is from Green Bay.

This is a "what-have-you-done-for-me-lately" league. To be honest, what Philbin did in Green Bay is cloudy as it is clear as his reputation as being a decent coach.

But I will challenge you respectfully to answer this question posed by the OP as to what has Philbin does in his tenure as Miami Dolphins Head Coach that's so great?

Most of us don't care about Green Bay. I personally Don't care what the Dolphins did in 2012 anymore. But Philbin as a QB guru has overseen Tannehill regressing. Adjustments have been criticized all year.

So please, give us your opinion. Because it's easy to "thumb down" everyone and not add to the conversation.

This is very thumbs down worthy

Sure we can get all caught up in the numbers, which is what everyone hangs their hat on.

The only stat I care about are wins.

The playoffs is the only barometer for me to a successful season.

Tannehill **** the bed in the final 2 games. So yeah, regression.

Yeah right,real strong response....


Wins are a team thing,individual stats from Ryan = progression not regression

 

[KTOWNFINFAN]

Philbin needed to go before Ireland. If both were gone we would have a chance but Philbin has done more to slow down this team than Ireland has. We had the talent to finish better than 8-8, and that falls on the coaches.

 

[chriswarren876]

Sure we can get all caught up in the numbers, which is what everyone hangs their hat on.

The only stat I care about are wins.

The playoffs is the only barometer for me to a successful season.

Tannehill **** the bed in the final 2 games. So yeah, regression.

Kid had no online whatsoever and still threw the damn ball for almost 4,000 yards. Now, did he make mistakes? Of course he did, but to say he regressed is completely untrue to both the eye test as well as the stats (except for a few).

If wins are indeed the only stat you care about.... 7-9 < 8-8 .............That sir is not REgression, it is PROgression.

Now did we get to the playoffs? Obviously the answer is no, but to say he regressed with all the crap he had to deal with is just bull****.

 

[Phindog]

Philbin needed to go before Ireland. If both were gone we would have a chance but Philbin has done more to slow down this team than Ireland has. We had the talent to finish better than 8-8, and that falls on the coaches.

Philbin needed to go before Ireland?

Wow,I couldn't disagree more.

They went in the order I felt,Sherman 1 (most noticeable difference) Ireland 2 (He was here long enough) 3 (special teams coach and QB coach) in no particular order.

 

[Shouright]

Not opening that can of worms here.

Don't blame you. Feel free to PM me, however. :up:

 

[Canadianfishfan]

Kid had no online whatsoever and still threw the damn ball for almost 4,000 yards. Now, did he make mistakes? Of course he did, but to say he regressed is completely untrue to both the eye test as well as the stats (except for a few).

If wins are indeed the only stat you care about.... 7-9 < 8-8 .............That sir is not REgression, it is PROgression.

Now did we get to the playoffs? Obviously the answer is no, but to say he regressed with all the crap he had to deal with is just bull****.

Believe whatever bull**** you like.

When he had the opportunity to raise his game in the final 2 weeks he did not.

He didn't not improve his deep ball accuracy at all. Which by the way I doubt will improve. Either you have it or you don't.

I know everyone is trying to hold onto positives, you hold onto these "PROgressions".

But don't sell me progress when he was outplayed by Thad Lewis and Geno Smith when there was everything to play for.

Aaron Rogers won a superbowl running for his goddamned life. A performance that elevated Philbin to our coach.

I'll give you one thing though, I don't think coaching helped Tannehill this season. Clearly when he was getting killed behind that Oline (some of it is his fault to with his awareness), but he still has to take that next step.

Tannehill while statstically have been better than what we've had around here, the end result is the same. So please, we can argue stats. Which are a nice consolation prize, but don't tell me when the final seconds of that Jets game on December 28th ticked down that you gave a **** about any players stats.

 

[Mogwai]

This thread asks a really valid question that honestly I'd like to hear the answer to. It would be nice for the bigtime Philbin supporters to articulate their answers instead of dropping thumbs down on the people who ask this question.

 

[truedolfan57]

This thread asks a really valid question that honestly I'd like to hear the answer to. It would be nice for the bigtime Philbin supporters to articulate their answers instead of dropping thumbs down on the people who ask this question.

i don't think i've ever heard anyone on this forum say that philbin is great. Most philbin supporters, just want to give him more than 2 years.

 

[Mogwai]

i don't think i've ever heard anyone on this forum say that philbin is great. Most philbin supporters, just want to give him more than 2 years.

If they don't think he's great, why would you want to give him more time? Because they think he has the potential to be great? What makes them think that?

 

[DolfanDuBbZ~]

Alex Smith is the beneficiary of that carousel. New Coach in KC and look how he's thriving.

I think for every argument there's a counter argument. There will always exceptions to the rule.

Of course all of us aren't employed by NFL teams so our opinions go so far.

Ireland had his faults. I actually thought he did a good job this year. Indeed when he got his extension many were happy.

Philbin though... tough. To me it boils down to the last 2 weeks of the season. You could just feel where things where headed. You could just feel the loses coming. Like a massive tornado raging towards your house and there is nothing you can do.

Philbin doesn't need to be a raging lunatic on the sideline like Sparano. He doesn't need to be the enforcer like Belichick.

He just needed to find a way to lift this team to a win. Through scheme, through adjustments, through motivation. I don't care how he does it, but that is the purpose of coaching.

Good assembled teams have players to execute the plays (on Ireland). Well coached teams put their players in the best position to make those plays (Philbin).

I don't see where these players will fight for Philbin. I think the players are taking on the attitude of this FO where everyone is looking out for themsevles.

You hear Patriot players talk about "the Patriot Way."

Does "the Dolphin Way" get us very excited right now?

There was a time (I'm dating myself) where not making the playoffs was a failure. That was the barometer.

Now it's an achievement instead of a step on the path to the real goal.

And that is disappointing.

So we should send Tannehill off to another franchise so he can succeed?

 

[truedolfan57]

If they don't think he's great, why would you want to give him more time? Because they think he has the potential to be great? What makes them think that?

I want to give him more time, because i don't think 2 years is long enough to evaluate a HC. especially with the GM he was stuck with.

 

[andyahs]

If they don't think he's great, why would you want to give him more time? Because they think he has the potential to be great? What makes them think that?

You are missing the point. Ross says he stays so the point is he is the Fins coach....we have no other option but to roll with him.

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