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Who do you want as Head Coach in 2015 ?

Who would you like as Head Coach in 2015?

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TheWalrus said:
Maybe because he looks like a character on Family Guy? But I think he's an excellent coach. Right now San Fran is bumping up against the limitations of their quarterback to read defenses. Not to mention they keep putting Jonathan Martin out there (because of injury, but still). He single handedly lost the Bears game for them.
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well he and kaepernick did...teams are loading up against that 9ers run and the qbs getting exploited as a result...bout time it happened...martins a disaster for sure lol
 
TheWalrus said:
Judging the performance of a position coach by how a defensive unit as a whole performs is dubious. You can't make the inference you're trying to make.

In any case, even if he was a stellar position coach, it wouldn't mean he would be a stellar coordinator. Look no further than Kevin Coyle. And even if you're a stellar coordinator it doesn't mean you're going to be a great head coach. It's too hard to project.

I just don't think you help yourself by targeting the coordinator of the offense or defense du jour. It makes it too easy to blind yourself to the true abilities of the person you're dealing with. We've made that error already a few times now and should be learning from it. Both Cameron and Philbin seemed stiff and bland from day one, yet we (and Huizenga and Ross) allowed their recent successes to overwhelm what in retrospect seems obvious.
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I don't see how Malzahn is a better option. He is a great college coach. I just don't see him being a guy that #1 would even want to leave for the NFL, and #2 have success in it. Chip Kelly may be able to beat up on the NFC East, but because the offense he runs, he'll never have the defense necessary to make a Super Bowl. He's beaten up on the NFC East, but his team is flat out too soft to ever get through Seattle, and San Fran.

Dan Quinn is a phenomenal football coach. Jason Taylor has called him the "best defensive line coach I've ever seen" he's been an assistant head coach, he's been a successful position coach, a successful defensive coordinator. He's coached under Nick Saban and Pete Carroll. You are really overlooking the fact that the defense was that good in his first season as an NFL Defensive Coordinator. You don't realize that that defense could not be any better. They are maxed out. He maximizes every single player on that defense. He's enthusiastic, and his players love him.

He also convinced Michael Bennett to sign with Seattle the day after they signed Cliff Avril, and had Chris Clemons, and Bruce Irvin on the roster.

“He’s not married to a scheme; he wants you to grow, He changes with the players.” “He’s a master in the film room.”- Michael Bennett

For Dan Quinn to become the Next Big Thing in coaching, his defense had to leave no doubt in Super Bowl XLVIII against Peyton Manning. In Quinn’s mind, that meant watching two years’ worth of Manning snaps in the week after the NFC Championship Game.

That’s every snap Manning had yet taken for the Denver Broncos, watched, re-watched and mentally catalogued; 1,479 throws, 967 handoffs, 131 touchdowns, 24 interceptions and more audibles than there are minutes in a day.

Says a close friend of Quinn’s, “He’s definitely an obsessive.”

“It’s about being developmental,” Quinn says. “How much can you find out about this player? And what can you draw out of him? It takes a lot of time and effort. Those relationships are really important.”

http://mmqb.si.com/2014/08/06/dan-quinn-seattle-seahawks/
 
Casas9425 said:
Hugh Jackson should get an interview.
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The problem with Jackson is that you can't trust him to run your organization. After Al Davis died, Jackson basically tried to take over the Raiders franchise and started shopping #1 and #2 draft picks like he was selling Christmas trees. Huge red flag against him in the future.
 
It's laughable that guys like Jon Gruden, Tony Dungy, and Bill Cowher are mentioned. They haven't coached in over 6 years.
 
I concur with Walrus and JD on the career assistants question.
You are basically rolling the dice.
Dan Quinn is for all intensive purposes a DLine lifer. He is obviously fantastic at it.
Last year he elevated to the whole d and is doing well.
You are now asking him to "promote" again and become the whole executive. Thats a lot to ask that guy.
Especially since his boss is a D guru.

I really like coaches who have coached both sides of the ball and perferably multiple positions. It shows their mind is flexible and they think on their feet. Ideally some experience at HC and success is especially nice.

Some college HC have failed to make the step up, but the reasons there can vary.
Often times they simply see they are more suited for college. And that is fine. See Spurrier or Saban.
 
I keep looking back at the John Harbaugh hire in Baltimore.
How the heck did they know. His resume is very modest.
He must have hit the interview out of the park.

More recently I guess Bruce Arians has been a successful hire, but he had a perfect year to figure out what works and what doesn't.

People talk about Mcoy, but he kind of inherited a plug and play team. So it is really hard to judge him. Interesting to see how he does once Rivers retires.
 
trojanma said:
I concur with Walrus and JD on the career assistants question.
You are basically rolling the dice.
Dan Quinn is for all intensive purposes a DLine lifer. He is obviously fantastic at it.
Last year he elevated to the whole d and is doing well.
You are now asking him to "promote" again and become the whole executive. Thats a lot to ask that guy.
Especially since his boss is a D guru.

I really like coaches who have coached both sides of the ball and perferably multiple positions. It shows their mind is flexible and they think on their feet. Ideally some experience at HC and success is especially nice.

Some college HC have failed to make the step up, but the reasons there can vary.
Often times they simply see they are more suited for college. And that is fine. See Spurrier or Saban.
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Name one candidate you think is better
 
I would nibble Baltimore if they would part with Harbaugh for a pick. Heard he was dissatisfied last year. Mulling move to college. That situation may be getting stale and they may want to simply blow things up.

David Shaw. HC Stanford

I would take a hard look at Malzahn or Sumlin too.
Perhaps Mike Dantonio HC Michigan St

Your points about Chip Kelly are noted, but there is something to be said about people that are innovators. It shows an ability to think beyond the established patters. You are assuming that they will simply continue their old patterns of success. But that is not necessarily true.
 
trojanma said:
I would nibble Baltimore if they would part with Harbaugh for a pick. Heard he was dissatisfied last year. Mulling move to college. That situation may be getting stale and they may want to simply blow things up.

David Shaw. HC Stanford

I would take a hard look at Malzahn or Sumlin too.
Perhaps Mike Dantonio HC Michigan St

Your points about Chip Kelly are noted, but there is something to be said about people that are innovators. It shows an ability to think beyond the established patters. You are assuming that they will simply continue their old patterns of success. But that is not necessarily true.
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Kevin Sumlin's QB's don't have success at the NFL. Shaw wouldn't be bad. But I don't think he is leaving Stanford. For any job.
 
Just thinking about your Dan Quinn idea.
You know who he overlapped with at Miami...?

Jason Garrett. Probably first call for AC/OC if he gets fired from Dallas and Quinn gets to be HC.
 
Vaark said:

Darren Bevell who'd likely already have been a head coach if a) Woody let Itzdick fire Rex and/or b) Seattle didn't play so late into the playoffs the last 2 seasons.
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Dan Quinn would have been a head coach last year if Seattle didn't play so late into the playoffs last year. And it's Darrell Bevell
 
Tannenballs said:
You mean a guy who upgraded a unit in his first year as a defensive coordinator? And has their talent fully maxed out? In his first year as a DC he led the defense to #1 in PPG, #1 in takeaways, #2 in Redzone D, #6 in 3rd down D. And held arguably the greatest offense to 8 points in the super bowl. 8. No doubt Carroll helps with the defense, and they are extremely talented. But that defense could not be any better than it is. That's what good coaching does for you.
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I agree that Quinn would be an exciting hire, and I I like his tendencies much more than I did Bradley's when he was the DC in Seattle. It should, though, be noted that adding Avril, Bennett, and replacing Brown with Maxwell (after Brown's issues) amounted to a significant upgrade in talent. It should also be noted that Pete Carroll, before anyone else, defines the success of that Seattle team. For anyone who has been paying attention to Seattle, Carroll built it with such vision and attention to detail. Difficult as it is to find a guy with the vision of Carroll, you also have to take into account John Schneider's part.

I'd love the Quinn hire. Like everything I've ever heard about him, and I like what I've seen from him. I also love that he's worked under Saban and is working under Carroll. And you're right when you say that D's as good as it gets. But as outstanding as Quinn looks on paper, you still have to worry about GM (unless you think Hickey would suffice), hiring an OC that compliments his system without being stifled (one of Seattle's greatest attributes) - and a QB to go with that OC, and you have to worry about Quinn's transition from DC to HC. It's a BIG step and a very different job. Again, with all that said, I'd love the hire. He brings a ton to the table, and he's got as good a chance of any candidate - outside of Harbaugh, who has proven to be a great HC.
 
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