Who is the Fins 2nd best player of all time?

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  1. DolphinCurry

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    Everybody take a breath and slow down. There is one Dolphins player whom many many sportswriters -including Paul Zimmerman as one example - consider to be the greatest player at his position OF ALL TIME. He is frequently overlooked because of his position. People should google the incredible way Shula spoke about him as well as many sportswriters. As much as I love Marino, this man may have been better at his position than Marino was at quarterback. That man is DWIGHT STEPHENSON. Probably the greatest center to ever play the game. Young guys who don’t know who I’m talking about google him. If the question is who was best at his position after Marino, for me it’s Stephenson.
     
  2. kingfin23

    kingfin23 This is the Year

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    1) Pat White 2) Marino
     
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    Griese. It wasn't until late into Marino's career that it became clear he was the best QB Miami ever fielded through his high production over a long, long time.
     
  4. SMadison29

    SMadison29 What Sherman aspires to be

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    I think that Sam Madison fella was alright.
     
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    You clearly don’t remember the great Dolphin teams.
     
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    Finkle is Einhorn
     
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    In all honesty...could be...

    Paul Warfield
    Dwight Stevenson
    Larry Csonka
    Bob Griese
    Jason Taylor

    Or someone else...
     
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    From what I understand before the injuries started kicking in Tim Bowens may have been the most dominant DT in the league, maybe him?
     
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    Marino
    Griese
    J Taylor
    Czonka
    Z Thomas
     
  17. DolfinJohnNY

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    1) ZONK
    2) Dwight Stephenson
    3) KOOCH
    4) Paul Warfield
    5) #13

    You might notice, I'm partial to WINNERS!!!
     
  18. superphin

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    Than shouldn't Marino be higher? He had 147 wins when he retired, currently 5th behind Elway, Brady, Manning, Favre.
     
  19. DolfinJohnNY

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    NOPE. MARINO was his own worst enemy. No one could throw the rock like DAN. But you could always tell when a run was coming, just look at the frown/pouty lips on his face. And SHULA, never seeing a talent like that before, just let MARINO fling it all over the place. GREATEST PASSER OF ALL TIME! Not one of my favorite DOLPHINS. I know I'll get blasted but, its how I saw it.
     
  20. superphin

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    No, I get it I kind of feel the same way. But I would also put that more on the coach than the player. Shula should have reigned him in Dan's first couple of years.
     
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    Completely agree. I know that if I was in SHULA's shoes, I probably would have done the exact damn same thing (if I was half as smart as The DON). Yeah, if MARINO had a half way decent running game & defense...? Woulda, coulda, shoulda...
     
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    you can’t be serious
     
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    Ricky Williams....
     
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    I think that was happening during the Jimmy years more so than the Shula years...IIRC
     
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    I am a bit surprised at the love for Csonka here. I was pretty young then, but as a kid, what I remember was that Csonka, Kiick, and Warfield turned traitor on Miami and signed with the WFL. It destroyed that Dolphin team, in an era where players rarely changed teams and dynasties could be built. If that team had stayed together in the 70's who knows how many more Super Bowls we'd have. Just now, I looked up on Csonka's page and it seems he had some pretty good reasons for leaving and that Joe Robbie kind of messed up the deal...but that's not the way it seemed to me as a kid in Northern California in an era with little news access. For me, Griese was the trooper for staying with the team through those lean years then. He would be my choice for second best...but talent-wise, you'd certainly have a case for Csonka, Ricky, or Jason...
     
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    sad part about being a 26 year old dolphin fan is that i really just started watching dan in his twilight years, and didn't see any of the glory days dolphins...JT for that reason would be the best I got to really see...that's why i remember being so burned when he went to the jets....
     
  27. Agua

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    You had to watch him play, bro. He was like a stronger armed Chad Pennington with even more intelligence and command. The guy called all his own plays. He was nicknamed "the surgeon" and "the professor" for a reason.
     
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    Huh!
     
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    Zonk. Hands down....
     
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    Stephenson was dominant...not sure he rates 2nd though as he was cut down in his prime (by a member of the hated Jets)
    Barely saw the heroes of the early 70s play so hard for me to weigh on on them
     
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    There has gotta be a place for:

    Zach Thomas,
    Jim Jenson
    Marks Brothers
    Jake Scott
    Richmond Webb
    Tony Nathan (and his background story)
     
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    There has gotta be a place for:

    Zach Thomas,
    Jim Jenson
    Marks Brothers
    Jake Scott
    Richmond Webb
    Tony Nathan (and his background story)
     
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    Definitely not in the top 5 though.
     
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    This debate looks generational.

    But results matter. Those results, build foundations. Those 70s teams were beast. The 80s teams took to the air. The 90s were a big freaking thud.

    And I didn't care about the fish until 82-83.

    So I tip my hat to those era's. Because I'm still here.
     
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    If you are depicting Csonka as a traitor, why then are you including Taylor? (and no I don't hold the rancid Tuna forcing him into Washington against him but I sure do hold the Jets against him especially when his bro in law refused to even interview with NE).
     
  36. maralieus

    maralieus Lets get those balls deep!!

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    I would have to go with JT. I wasnt alive for the other greats. ZT is my 2nd favorite though.
     
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    I have nothing against Sam Madison, but Patrick Surtain was the better all around CB and he doesn't crack the top ten Dolphins of all time.
     
  38. dolpns13

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    He was DPOY in Sabans scheme
     
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    The offense's job is to score points. Marino led the team to points. How is irrelevant. The issue with those teams was defense. They had none.
     
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    And no running game. MARINO HATED to run the ball. HATED IT!!!
     

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