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Ben was a highly regarded rookie QB, Moore has been a starter, and a 2nd string QB his whole career and was always looked at as mediocre, see panthers, there's a biiiiig difference.
Why do so many people think we throw the season if we start Moore?
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Ben was a highly regarded rookie QB, Moore has been a starter, and a 2nd string QB his whole career and was always looked at as mediocre, see panthers, there's a biiiiig difference.
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because he doesnt want to admit the moore is 6-7 as a starter. He also fumbled 14 times in those 13 games but thats none of my busdines
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are we really going to act like Moore lost the starting positioin to David Garrard that year. He wasn't going to start anyway tannys rookie year. In fact had garrard not blown out a knee in training camp Moore would have prbably been the number 3 qb
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I completely agree. It was that helmet to helmet hit he took from Mario Williams mid season last year. If I could ask tannehill one thing that would be it. "Did Mario completely rattle your brain last year and does that still affect you today??". Before that game he had a good pocket presence imo and stood tall to throw even when he was under pressure. Now he acts scared and can't keep his feet under control and always falls back when pressured.
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Cowher wasn't fired after replacing maddox because the rooneys know how to run a franchise. They dont shake up the front office and qb every 2 years. They actually believe in developing talent something we dont do in miami. In fact the lack of stability is one of the things that has killed this team for 10 years now. The lack of stability in our front office is why we don't have an identity as a team. Like it or not the Rooney family knows how to run a franchise.
In most other places(including your team and mine) Cowher would have been fired late 90s/early 00s and they never see a SB. Tomlin would have been fired for the last couple of years but they know how to run a franchise. I hate them but they know. why more teams don't follow their model I have no idea.
I'm conflicted. I want the season to end without any excuse for Ryan Tannehill. Last thing we need is for him to sit out a few games, ones that we lose, and then he comes back and allows the happy adjusters to happy adjust. Too many top guys in the organization can share that flawed thinking. That's always the issue. I want to believe Dennis Hickey is not a happy adjuster but there's simply not enough evidence.
On the other hand, I like Matt Moore's personality above Tannehill's, and I'd like to see him get a shot while he's still in his 30ish prime. I am admittedly biased in favor of Pac 12 guys, and ones who won bets for me in college.
Besides, Tannehill is boring. Very little variance. You know you'll see the line drives slightly off target with the ball deflecting off hands and Tannehill jumping up and down in frustration. With a mediocre roster it's all about entertainment, not titles. Matt Moore is markedly more entertaining. He'll make big plays and unfathomable mistakes. He'll try to scramble and get the ball knocked out of his hand for a game changing mistake. But he might follow that with a perfectly arched bomb.
Yeah, I've convinced myself. Put me down for Matt Moore. He might actually know who we are playing. On that 5th Quarter show he might actually say something worthwhile instead of a robotic recital that it's a long season and we all need to get better.
On the other hand, I like Matt Moore's personality above Tannehill's, and I'd like to see him get a shot while he's still in his 30ish prime. I am admittedly biased in favor of Pac 12 guys, and ones who won bets for me in college.
Besides, Tannehill is boring. Very little variance. You know you'll see the line drives slightly off target with the ball deflecting off hands and Tannehill jumping up and down in frustration. With a mediocre roster it's all about entertainment, not titles. Matt Moore is markedly more entertaining. He'll make big plays and unfathomable mistakes. He'll try to scramble and get the ball knocked out of his hand for a game changing mistake. But he might follow that with a perfectly arched bomb.
Yeah, I've convinced myself. Put me down for Matt Moore. He might actually know who we are playing. On that 5th Quarter show he might actually say something worthwhile instead of a robotic recital that it's a long season and we all need to get better.
in 2011 he sure looked good coming off the bench in Q1 for an injured and ineffective Tannehill in helping pummel your jets that day.
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Meant 2012 - sorry. I was at that game.
Also, don't discount that when your team is our of it that may make it more impressive to reel off those wins. The team has nothing to play for - doesn't mean the other teams do not
I'm talking about the last 10 games. Did he struggle his first 3? Yes. If only tannehill had such a short learning curve before winning 70% of his games.
he looked good that day, I think in an emergency he can do the job. a game here, a game there but counting on him long term? I wouldn't.
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Roethlisberger did not immediately step in as the starting quarterback for the Steelers. He was the No. 3 QB behind Tommy Maddox and Charlie Batch. When Batch was injured in the preseason, however, Roethlisberger moved up to no. 2. Maddox started, and won, the season opener against the Raiders and started versus the Ravens. But after an ineffective outing and third-quarter injury to Maddox, Roethlisberger stepped in for his first NFL action. Despite spurring a mild comeback, the Steelers lost the game. Maddox's injury changed the Steelers' original plan for Roethlisberger, which was for him to sit on the bench or play sparingly during the first season or two in order to learn the team's system. Instead, he started the third game of the season.
Two COMPLETELY different scenarios.
I agree w you that he's not a long term answer. But tannehill is pretty much as bad as it gets right now and w the AFC East being weak (I don't think NE is as good as usual) I think a bit better QB play and we have a shot at the division.
Aren't you in same boat w Vick? Realistically if he plays don't you win this year more than w Geno?
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ah I didn't realize the injuries played such a role there
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Got it from wikipedia. I knew Big Ben was a backup but not the number 3 to start. Pretty crazy seeing how high he was drafted. Man the times changed.
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He's 6-6 as a Dolphins starter and 7-7 if you want to give him those two other games. Please don't spin it to say "OH well he is 7-3 in his last 10 games" as if the first 4 weren't the ones that knocked us out of the playoffs.