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Seems like most in the know already have Tanehill pegged as the 3[SUP]rd[/SUP] string QB this year assuming both Garrard and Moore stay on the roster.

My question is…why isn’t the #8 pick in the draft ready to take over at starting QB (or at least challenge) when the only QBs he is competing against on the roster probably won’t make many people's top 20 starting QB list (Jaws had Moore at #26...Garrard, 34 years old and coming off back surgery)? What separates a Newton from a Tannehill? Why does it take some QBs so long to click, if it clicks at all?

I know...3 questions, but seriously, why isn't Tanehill further along?
 
I dont think they want to push him to start, keeping him for 2013.............
 
ROADRUNNER said:
I dont think they want to push him to start, keeping him for 2013.............
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So you think RT is on par with Newton, Luck, RG3 in terms of being ready to start, but the coaches just don't want to push him?
 
I would say, basically because he isn't as experienced as the other guys. He needs seasoning. I thought everyone was in agreement on that when he was drafted.
 
Super inexperienced. If you want to win some games, you start Moore or Garrard, and if one gets hurt/sucks monkey balls, then you put the other one in. It really doesn't affect me one way or the other.
 
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I would say, basically because he isn't as experienced as the other guys. He needs seasoning. I thought everyone was in agreement on that when he was drafted.
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That's what everyone says. Newton threw 292 passes in college, Tannehill threw 774. Luck would have clearly been the #1 pick in last year's draft if he decided to come out having only thrown 660 passes and undoubtedly been the starting QB for Carolina last year.

Tannehill played QB in high school. His father was a college player and coach. Tannehill was a fifth year senior. He will be 24 in two weeks, making him one of the older QBs to come into the league. Said he never missed a QB meeting. He proclaimed to know 80-85% of the Dolphins playbook which is much more than Garrard or Moore.

So I go back to what separates a Tannehill from a Newton or a Luck? Natural talent? Why are those players ready with such little seasoning as compared to a Tannehill?
 
AdamC13 said:
Seems like most in the know already have Tanehill pegged as the 3[SUP]rd[/UP] string QB this year assuming both Garrard and Moore stay on the roster.

My question is…why isn’t the #8 pick in the draft ready to take over at starting QB (or at least challenge) when the only QBs he is competing against on the roster probably won’t make many people's top 20 starting QB list (Jaws had Moore at #26...Garrard, 34 years old and coming off back surgery)? What separates a Newton from a Tannehill? Why does it take some QBs so long to click, if it clicks at all?

I know...3 questions, but seriously, why isn't Tanehill further along?
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Because he isn't good at quarterback.
 
Who said he isn't further along?

Omar Kelly? LOL

Anyways beat writers don't know a ****ing thing about what any coach is doing right now with the depth chart. Just because Moore and Garrard got more reps in a damn OTa doesn't mean a damn thing.
 
Who exactly IS ready for game1 at this point, I would like to know?

A new head coach with new coordinators and new specialist coaches is installing a new system and is integrating new players, all of it done at a breakneck tempo that had senior vets scratching their heads and wondering if this was all such a good idea.

But let's focus all the pressure to come through this baptism of fire on Ryan Tannehill, because we didn't like the pick.

Never mind that we have capable options other than Tannehill. Nobody seems to be writing off Vernon, Martin, Marshall, Messam, Matthews, Cunningham, Hicks, Miller.... Despite the fact they are all earmarked for roles that have far fewer capable options.

Could we all please cut the kid some slack. Wanting the kid to fail so you can be proven right is not exactly the rousing victory you believe it to be in your insecure little minds.
 
Cause when usc qb matt barkley decided to stay it ****ed us and we got stuck with a wr not a qb in tannehill, havent heard one good thing about him during ota's, heres to hoping for the best tho if he busts just gonna set us back again
 
Phinatic8u said:
Who said he isn't further along?

Omar Kelly? LOL

Anyways beat writers don't know a ****ing thing about what any coach is doing right now with the depth chart. Just because Moore and Garrard got more reps in a damn OTa doesn't mean a damn thing.
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Coach Philbin who appears to be very calculated when dealing with the media seemed displeased with RT throwing an interception in 2 minute drill and needed better awareness and route running as well...not sure if he was specifically talking about RT only, but it was said within the context of answering RT questions.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/miami-dolphins/09000d5d82a0618c/Philbin-evaluates-Tannehill

Reggie Bush also made a comment that RT would definitely be 3rd sting QB, but would be ready when called upon. (Not really high praise for the #8 pick in the draft imo)

I have yet to read anything where a player has come out and said anything of high praise about Tannehill other than he shows "flashes" out there...(Hartline I believe)
 
I don't know where Tanne stands "today" because I haven't seen him against NFL competition. Sometimes guys project pretty good against stiff competition & other times they don't in the NFL.

I'm pretty serious about football & have watched a few decades ... I can usually get a grasp of where an NFL QB stands after a few games & can "kinda" tell where he's going (the hard part.)

I call it the Learning Curve ... can the QB continue to climb the Learning Curve? The studs climbed it quickly, others take a while ... others never got off the ground (BUST).

Of course there's a few other factors such as strong arm, accuracy, athleticism, feel for the rush, etc. etc. ... but if you can continue to climb the Learning Curve (LC) and/or get up it pretty far, you'll be fine.

Not to pick on any QB, but Henne's a good example. Had some skills & got a ways up the Learning Curve the first year or so ... but got stuck after that & did NOT progress. Quite a few saw it & were down on Henne, but I'd say > 90% had faith in Henne because they didn't know what to look for. BTW, a big game and/or big stats has nothing to do with that Learning Curve (QB success) ... Henne had a couple of those while stuck on the LC & playing poorly (rest the NFL makes mistakes too & enabled his ave. play alot of times!!).

Anywho, that's just the way I see it ... climbing the Learning Curve ... or to put it in very simple terms "continuous improvement of QB skills, particularly the between-the-ears-QB-skills".

Do NOT get caught up in Win/Loss/Stats!!!! ... watch the QB & how he runs the O!!
 
AdamC13 said:
That's what everyone says. Newton threw 292 passes in college, Tannehill threw 774. Luck would have clearly been the #1 pick in last year's draft if he decided to come out having only thrown 660 passes and undoubtedly been the starting QB for Carolina last year.

Tannehill played QB in high school. His father was a college player and coach. Tannehill was a fifth year senior. He will be 24 in two weeks, making him one of the older QBs to come into the league. Said he never missed a QB meeting. He proclaimed to know 80-85% of the Dolphins playbook which is much more than Garrard or Moore.

So I go back to what separates a Tannehill from a Newton or a Luck? Natural talent? Why are those players ready with such little seasoning as compared to a Tannehill?
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Luck and Griffin were 4 year starters at QB, Newton 3. experience isn't just about pass attempts


Edit: not sure why I thought Luck played 4 years, my point is all 3 of those guys have much more experience than Tannehill.
He is not ready yet, he wasn't expected to be. again, is there anyone that didn't know this when he was drafted?
 
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