Another "Tannehill sucks" type thread before training camp? 
Why Isn't Tannehill Further Along?
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Developing quarterbacks is similar to horse racing... it's now how they start that matters, it's how they finish.
A lot of the best quarterbacks to ever play in the NFL weren't ready to start, or even compete for a starting spot as rookies. Some of 'em just got thrown in the fire and were told to sink or swim. It's a solid philosophy.
Conversely, some rookie QB's start out on fire and everyone is ready to start making their busts for the Hall of Fame, only to realize horse racing is about more than the first lap. I see it all the time.
Bringing a quarterback along slowly is also a solid philosophy. Where Tannehill was drafted has nothing to do with how ready he was or wasn't, you can't let his draft slot dictate how you view the situation. Once you understand that he was reached for in the top 10 by an organization that needed a legitimate high draft pick as a project QB for the future in order to win back the fanbase and sell some tickets, you accept it for what it is.
Where he's at right now during his first mini camp is irrelevant. What's relevant is where he's at 3 years from now. The same would apply if he was exceedingly terrific right now.
However, to answer the question at hand... the reason he isn't further along comes down to situational football. I talked about it thoroughly in regards to Tannehill as a prospect in several instances. Be patient.
A lot of the best quarterbacks to ever play in the NFL weren't ready to start, or even compete for a starting spot as rookies. Some of 'em just got thrown in the fire and were told to sink or swim. It's a solid philosophy.
Conversely, some rookie QB's start out on fire and everyone is ready to start making their busts for the Hall of Fame, only to realize horse racing is about more than the first lap. I see it all the time.
Bringing a quarterback along slowly is also a solid philosophy. Where Tannehill was drafted has nothing to do with how ready he was or wasn't, you can't let his draft slot dictate how you view the situation. Once you understand that he was reached for in the top 10 by an organization that needed a legitimate high draft pick as a project QB for the future in order to win back the fanbase and sell some tickets, you accept it for what it is.
Where he's at right now during his first mini camp is irrelevant. What's relevant is where he's at 3 years from now. The same would apply if he was exceedingly terrific right now.
However, to answer the question at hand... the reason he isn't further along comes down to situational football. I talked about it thoroughly in regards to Tannehill as a prospect in several instances. Be patient.
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Tannehill knew 80-85% of the playbook. Garrard/Moore were confused, not Tannehill. Are you aware the new system is basically the same system Tannehill played in the last 4 years at Texas A&M?
If Tannehill can't handle the pressure of a thread in July on finheaven
then he is definitely in serious trouble when he hits the field of play. Who said anything about wanting him to fail? My hopes are he turns out to be the G.O.A.T.
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Not accurate.
What does Tannehill being the #8 pick in the draft have to do with anything? You cannot treat a QB the same way you do a positional player. Many QBs drafted in the first round round or even the Top 10 did not begin their rookie season as the starter for their respective teams.
Jaws had Matt Moore at 26? So What? Last year Moore played better than a lot of QB Jaws had ranked significantly higher on that subjected list of his.
What seperates a Newton from a Tannehill...their situation. Cam Newton had his struggles during his rookie training camp but Carolina still went with him because he was a better option than Jimmy Clausen was. Newton also also Stewart and Williams at running back. Olsen and Shockey at tight end and Steve Smith at wide receiver.
Close to being the same, but not 100%. Plus, you don't think Moore and Garrard eventually learned the playbook and were able to play better in the offseason program. Sure they might have been confused initially, but they are professional veterans who have learned new offenses before. It was never going to take them months to learn it. In terms of knowing the offense, I am sure Garrard and Moore got on even level with Tannehill pretty quickly.
The thing is, Miami is in no rush to put Tannehill on the field in 2012 because they do have two solid veterans also on the roster. Besides Newton, who did Carolina have last year? Besides Luck, what do the Colts have? Besides Griffin, what do the Redskins have? Even in Cleveland, only McCoy is any threat to Weeden. None of those teams had a former Pro Bowl quarterback or another veteran who was in the top half of the league in QB rating. Also, Tannehill is the most raw of the 1st round quarterbacks this year with only 19 college starts, the rest of them are more prepared to step in from day one. Doesn't mean those other guys are going to play well or that Tannehill would suck if he had to start from day one. Weeden might be able to play from day one, but Tannehill in the end will likely become the better QB and will have a much longer NFL career. Tannehill has all the tools and the mental capacity to be a very good NFL QB, and Miami has the luxury of not having to rush him and put him on the field this season.
Ireland, Philbin and Ross even tried to hint to fans right after he was drafted that he likely was not going to enter the season as the starter and that one of the veterans would. Another thing to keep in the back of your mind that after the 2012 season, both Moore and Garrard become free agents. So it is pretty clear to me the plan is to let Tannehill sit for one year, soak everything in, and get inserted as the starter for the 2013 season. Maybe he does start a couple of games later in the season, but there is no rush to put him on the field.
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Further along from what? Training camp for his rookie year hasn't even started. If you remember correctly the Fins played the Panthers in the pre season last year and Cam looked like the furthest thing from an NFL quarterback. Who knows what Luck looks like yet and the same for Griffin. Let some things be played out before proclaiming Tannehill as a bust or bad pick.
Trolling I see.
Newton was so bad in training camp and preseason last year that the Panthers actually considered starting Clausen in week one. Yet some are overreacting about Tannehill before he even gets to go training camp and play in preseason games. The whole "Tannehill is #3" reports never came from the Dolphins or inside sources. It was the writer at the Palm Beach Post that got a lot of flack for calling Philbin a liar, that speculated Tannehill was going to be the #3.
Ahhh the impatience begins! Give the kid some time! Training camp hasn't even begun and he's already being questioned or judged as being "a bad QB"? 
I'll trust Philbin and the rest of his staff's judgment on Tannehill being ready to go. While it likely won't be until the later half of this season or the beginning of next season, Tannehill will get his chance. THEN we start getting clues as to how good (or bad) he is. Until then, let's have a little patience!
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Another "Tannehill sucks" type thread before training camp?
That's one way to spin it...your words, not mine. Where have I said he sucks? With the #8 pick do come certain expectations from fans. It would be nice to read from a coach or player that Tannehill is showing the qualities that make him worthy of the #8 pick in the draft and future franchise QB.
I started this thread with a legitimate question as to people's opinions as to what separates a player like Newton or Luck from a Tannehill type (insert numerous players here)...it doesn't appear to be the wonderlic score, pass attempts in college, games started, combine drills, age, etc...
I remember when coach Shula talked about Marino he said it doesn't take long to go from his head to his feet or to his arm. Is that it? It that coachable, but only to a degree?
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Cam Newton played on THREE national championship teams, QBing two of them.
If you want to say something Adam, no reason to beat around the bush, lol.
hoops
Tua time!
newton was not "so bad" in training camp last year...yeah there was media talk that the panthers could go with clausen but with the way the panthers catered the offense to newtons strengths i don't buy that was ever really in play...
that o was built for cam newton...
that o was built for cam newton...