Wish we hadn't signed Chambers to that long contract.

[Motion]

I'd rather have either one of them than Chambers long term.

If you'd take Reggie Wayne over Chris Chambers I seriously question your football knowledge and judge of talent.

 

[Canadi-Phin]

I'm not overly concerned that he doesn't get 1000 yard seasons with the QBs we've had and the offensive system that we've run. But I do like 11 Tds in 2003 and 7tds in 2004. I can handle those numbers.

 

[Brad528]

You have to be kidding me right. Chambers doesnt drop anything when it counts

 

[larfo2224]

I for one am glad we signed him to the contract. He has to make the acrobatic catches because he does not have a quality QB to get him the ball in stride so he can get the YAC. He is very good and we will soon see if he is going to be great. He also seems to have good off the field quality and is not a cancer in the locker room, like we hear of some players. We really need to stop tearing our own team apart and start supporting them.

 

[Superself]

:shakeno:

Wow Mr Short-term memory.

How soon we forget how a few years ago he led all AFC WR's with 11 TD's on a team that played Wanny-Ball (Running 65 times a game for a 1.2 YPC AVG) with a QB who's not good enough to start for USC?

Please.

I agree that he needs to step up and believe he will. But there were games when he would get the ball thrown his way like 3-4 times and he was WIDE OPEN quite a bit.

What he lacks is consistency. He makes circus catches sure, but those are not the bread and butter plays that make opposing defensive coordinators stay awake at night.

Most of the corners Chambers is up against, he probably either can out jump them, out muscle them or out run them.
If he was "Marvin Harrison" consistent, he would be as good as Randy Moss.

Can he put it all together and be that guy?
I hope so.

 

[Scrap]

Who was throwing to Boldin when he caught way over 1,000 yards as a rook? Or Boston when he was having a monster season?

Jake Plummer I think.

Reguardless of who he is now, he was playing well back then.

Drew Bledsoe used to be a better qb than he is now also.

 

[ether79]

What he lacks is consistency. He makes circus catches sure, but those are not the bread and butter plays that make opposing defensive coordinators stay awake at night.

Most of the corners Chambers is up against, he probably either can out jump them, out muscle them or out run them.
If he was "Marvin Harrison" consistent, he would be as good as Randy Moss.

Can he put it all together and be that guy?
I hope so.

He makes the circus catches because over the course of his career that is what has mainly been thrown to him. I really don't remember him ever having a major problems with drops. Harrison is consistent because he has a steady, consistent, probably future hall of famer throwing to him. I am ready to finally see Chambers put it all together though. About the contract, I think he is only in the top 12 or so in pay, so I see nothing wrong with that.

 

[Superself]

If you'd take Reggie Wayne over Chris Chambers I seriously question your football knowledge and judge of talent.

Really? I'd question yours for not taking him and for questioning mine.

The guy has improved every year he has been in the league. He is fast and has damn good hands.

Right now, I'd take him over Chambers in a heartbeat.

Chambers was thrown at 151 times last year and caught 59 balls or 45.7% of the passes thrown his way.

Wayne was thrown at 128 times last year and caught 77 balls or 60.2% of the passes thrown his way.

Many would say that the difference is the QBs, but I wouldn't doubt that many of the balls Chambers missed were catchable balls. But that is just my opinion.

 

[Dubfire]

What he lacks is consistency. He makes circus catches sure, but those are not the bread and butter plays that make opposing defensive coordinators stay awake at night.

Most of the corners Chambers is up against, he probably either can out jump them, out muscle them or out run them.
If he was "Marvin Harrison" consistent, he would be as good as Randy Moss.

Can he put it all together and be that guy?
I hope so.

What about consistency from:

A. The QB
B. The offensive system
C. The offensive coaching staff
D. The offensive coordinators

You have to look at the big picture man. I agree CC needs to step up and no he is not an elite receiver yet. But he has put up some VERY good numbers on some very bad offenses.

 

[Superself]

He makes the circus catches because over the course of his career that is what has mainly been thrown to him. I really don't remember him ever having a major problems with drops. Harrison is consistent because he has a steady, consistent, probably future hall of famer throwing to him. I am ready to finally see Chambers put it all together though. About the contract, I think he is only in the top 12 or so in pay, so I see nothing wrong with that.

I wouldn't say he has a major problem, but I think it is enough of a problem that if he doesn't improve in that category, he will never be the WR we all thought he could be.

 

[djfresh47]

Chris Chambers is a good wideout, but he's not an elite player. He has made some circus catches, but is it me, or does he not get the seperation, a player as fast as him should get. He should excel in Linehan's offense, but that doesn't mean he will.

 

[Superself]

What about consistency from:

A. The QB
B. The offensive system
C. The offensive coaching staff
D. The offensive coordinators

You have to look at the big picture man. I agree CC needs to step up and no he is not an elite receiver yet. But he has put up some VERY good numbers on some very bad offenses.

Yeah and every year its some excuse why he doesn't step it up.
That is why its more critical he not miss balls like that.

As I mentioned before, we can't put him in a bubble and give him a perfect QB, the best offensive system, coaching staff and coordinators. He has to use his strengths/advantages on a consistent basis and go out there and get it done.

 

[Dubfire]

Yeah and every year its some excuse why he doesn't step it up.
That is why its more critical he not miss balls like that.

As I mentioned before, we can't put him in a bubble and give him a perfect QB, the best offensive system, coaching staff and coordinators. He has to use his strengths/advantages on a consistent basis and go out there and get it done.

11 TD's in 2003 is not stepping up? :shakeno:


Lastly, I am not putting him in a bubble, but the receivers you keep comparing him to have just what you have been describing.

You seriously think Reggie Wayne (and I love Reggie as much as anyone, used to hang out with him on Friday nights playing pool in the UC @ UM) would put up the same numbers in...Cleveland or Baltimore?

Look at Peerless Price and the year ge had before hsi ******* bolted to Atlanta. Great numbers. Now he's in a completely new system with a QB who is STILL learning the system and he stinks!!

 

[ether79]

Yeah and every year its some excuse why he doesn't step it up.
That is why its more critical he not miss balls like that.

As I mentioned before, we can't put him in a bubble and give him a perfect QB, the best offensive system, coaching staff and coordinators. He has to use his strengths/advantages on a consistent basis and go out there and get it done.

You're right, but all those recievers you mentioned have pro bowl caliber QBs or at least smart QBs that don't have noodle arms throwing the ball to them. While I agree Chambers needs to step it up some I think you really can't compare him with those players. It's easy to say those guys step it up when it matters most when Farve, Culpepper, Manning, and a few #1 overall picks are throwing to them in passer friendly systems with good o-lines/running games.

 

[LtDan]

That sure TD catch he missed in the last preseason game by the pylon is what separates him from other WRs who routinely get 1000+ yard seasons and pro bowl births.

Players like Torry Holt, Andre Johnson, Marvin Harrison, Chad Johnson, Javon Walker, Reggie Wayne, Nate Burelson, Hines Ward, Roy Williams, Joe Horn,...etc would have caught that football.

I'm tired of the excuses with Chambers. He has to step it up and be that deep threat!! Yes that means beating double teams and making the hard catch. Its what other damn good WRs do.

Yeah, those guys never drop passes. How soon you forget the one he caught in the JAX game. One of the least intelligent post EVER on FH!!