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Wish we hadn't signed Chambers to that long contract.

Superself said:
What he lacks is consistency. He makes circus catches sure, but those are not the bread and butter plays that make opposing defensive coordinators stay awake at night.

Most of the corners Chambers is up against, he probably either can out jump them, out muscle them or out run them.
If he was "Marvin Harrison" consistent, he would be as good as Randy Moss.

Can he put it all together and be that guy?
I hope so.

So, we locked up a guy, who if he developes more sonsistnecy, can be as good as Randy Moss (i.e. the best in the game), and you're upset about this??

News flash - he didn't get Randy Moss or Marvin Harrison type money, so what is there to be mad over???

And your whole argument with him is whether he made a tough catch in a preseason game???? He got wide open and if that were Marvin or Moss, they wouldn't have made THAT catch, because the ball would have been out front of them over their inside shoulder for an EASY TD catch.

Now do you think that either Marvin or Randy would have made that amazing catch against Jacksonville where Grant destroyed Chambers (because the QB laid him out), but he still made the catch??

Bottom line, we kept an emerging star on our team for a reasonable price, even if he never produces any better, and a bargain price if he starts to produce like the rest of the league seems to think that he will.
 
Superself said:
Really? I'd question yours for not taking him and for questioning mine. :lol: :rolleyes:

The guy has improved every year he has been in the league. He is fast and has damn good hands.

Right now, I'd take him over Chambers in a heartbeat.

Chambers was thrown at 151 times last year and caught 59 balls or 45.7% of the passes thrown his way.

Wayne was thrown at 128 times last year and caught 77 balls or 60.2% of the passes thrown his way.

Many would say that the difference is the QBs, but I wouldn't doubt that many of the balls Chambers missed were catchable balls. But that is just my opinion.

Just the fact that your comparing Chambers' stat's with Wayne's makes me also question your football ideology...

Did you watch our team last year? Did you watch the passes that were thrown to Chambers? Not to mention the fact that he was our only threat at WR, you don't think he was double teamed? Many of the balls Chamber missed were catchable?? Are you serious??

Wayne has a predominantly passing offense and he's going up against 2nd corners. Marvin Harrison was always being double teamed, and a half-decent receiver could have gotten open with that offense going against lesser cb's single covered... Peyton Manning is one of the most accurate QB's in the league and could always hit Wayne with catchable balls.

Do you watch football or just look up statisitics?
 
burger13 said:
So, we locked up a guy, who if he developes more sonsistnecy, can be as good as Randy Moss (i.e. the best in the game), and you're upset about this??.

I want the guy to succeed. I just want more consistency out of the guy. NO excuses anymore. I'm tired of them.


burger13 said:
And your whole argument with him is whether he made a tough catch in a preseason game????

Huh? You think I made that assessment off of one catch in preseason. You didn't get that I was using that as ONE example?
Sheesh! :rolleyes2
 
why the helll would anyone say this...just a few missed catchs...hate to be your kid and mess up a lil...leave chris alone hes awesome
 
Superself said:
Chambers was thrown at 151 times last year and caught 59 balls or 45.7% of the passes thrown his way.

Wayne was thrown at 128 times last year and caught 77 balls or 60.2% of the passes thrown his way.

Many would say that the difference is the QBs, but I wouldn't doubt that many of the balls Chambers missed were catchable balls. But that is just my opinion.

If you honestly think Feeley/Fiedler can put the ball where it needs to be as well as Manning your kidding yourself. Not to mention the offensive scheme of the Colts compared to WannyBall.

Give it up. :shakeno:
 
Superself said:
That sure TD catch he missed in the last preseason game by the pylon is what separates him from other WRs who routinely get 1000+ yard seasons and pro bowl births.

Players like Torry Holt, Andre Johnson, Marvin Harrison, Chad Johnson, Javon Walker, Reggie Wayne, Nate Burelson, Hines Ward, Roy Williams, Joe Horn,...etc would have caught that football.

I'm tired of the excuses with Chambers. He has to step it up and be that deep threat!! Yes that means beating double teams and making the hard catch. Its what other damn good WRs do.

Yo man I'm not giving any excuses for him but he makes amazing catches all the time. I do admit he has to come up with the ball more when hes double teamed but you act like he is just a decent reciever. If we get a qb that can get him the ball more often then he will have that 1000 yard season.
 
I bet if he had a good qb throwing long accurate balls to him he'd be up there with the top receivers. Miami fans would really be pissed off if he went to another team and was breaking 1500 yards every year. Then they'd be crying about losing him and he doesn't drop many passes.I'm thankful we have him and hope we keep him as long as possible, they need to throw to him more,but is always doubled.That should change..barring injuries.
 
Themajster said:
Just the fact that your comparing Chambers' stat's with Wayne's makes me also question your football ideology...
For the record, I don't give a crap who questions my "football ideology" or whatever!! You can question mine and I can question yours and where/what does it get us?? Nothing.

Themajster said:
Did you watch our team last year?
Sure did, I'm a big time football fan...watch most of the games every Sunday.
Themajster said:
Did you watch the passes that were thrown to Chambers?

Yes I did and he dropped some catchable balls.
Themajster said:
Not to mention the fact that he was our only threat at WR, you don't think he was double teamed?

He probably was double teamed. He should beat double coverage. Thats just an excuse. IMO.

Themajster said:
Many of the balls Chamber missed were catchable?? Are you serious??
Yes I am serious. I didn't say all of them were...I said many were.

Themajster said:
Do you watch football or just look up statisitics?

Actually, I do both.
:)
 
SpeedRush99 said:
If you honestly think Feeley/Fiedler can put the ball where it needs to be as well as Manning your kidding yourself. Not to mention the offensive scheme of the Colts compared to WannyBall.

Give it up. :shakeno:


You must be kidding yourself...because I didn't say that.
:rolleyes2
 
Superself said:
I want the guy to succeed. I just want more consistency out of the guy. NO excuses anymore. I'm tired of them.




Huh? You think I made that assessment off of one catch in preseason. You didn't get that I was using that as ONE example?
Sheesh! :rolleyes2

well.............

Superself said:
That sure TD catch he missed in the last preseason game by the pylon is what separates him from other WRs who routinely get 1000+ yard seasons and pro bowl births.

yeah, I guess that's what I thought....being that it is what you said. That miss is what separates him....it's right there.

but how about the catch against Jax that I brought up......does that separate him at all???

You say that you want him to succeed, and just want more consistency....but are b!tching about the contract that we gave him. Either we signed him to a contract, franchised him after this year, or lose him. I like the route that we took. He's not worth the top-5 franchise value, I don't want to lose him, and his value is likely to only go up after this year IMO.
 
burger13 said:
well.............



yeah, I guess that's what I thought....being that it is what you said. That miss is what separates him....it's right there.

but how about the catch against Jax that I brought up......does that separate him at all???

You say that you want him to succeed, and just want more consistency....but are b!tching about the contract that we gave him. Either we signed him to a contract, franchised him after this year, or lose him. I like the route that we took. He's not worth the top-5 franchise value, I don't want to lose him, and his value is likely to only go up after this year IMO.

I thought his contract was more than that. I was thinking it escalates. SHould have confirmed it for sure.
But I still think he needs to step it up and make those types of plays more often.
 
Superself said:
You must be kidding yourself...because I didn't say that.
:rolleyes2

Yeah actually you did say that.


Superself said:
Chambers was thrown at 151 times last year and caught 59 balls or 45.7% of the passes thrown his way.

Wayne was thrown at 128 times last year and caught 77 balls or 60.2% of the passes thrown his way.

Many would say that the difference is the QBs, but I wouldn't doubt that many of the balls Chambers missed were catchable balls. But that is just my opinion.
 
marino1348 said:
what is so special about 1,000 yards??????? I guess it is more important than leading your confrence in tds.

1,000 yards is special because it is divisble by 10. Most people cannot look past anything that isn't divisible by 10.
 
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Your telling me thats a bad season. Give me a break when your catching almost 70 balls and almost have a thousand yard season and avg over 10 yards a catch and having 7 tds with an offense we had last year. Your telling me it was a bad idea to keep him! You take away our #1 reciever on our offense and we would of looked even more disgusting.
 
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