On the Jets website.Would you except a down year if...... it gets Tannenbalm and Gase fired and we got a top 3 pick and selected a new QB?
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On the Jets website.Would you except a down year if...... it gets Tannenbalm and Gase fired and we got a top 3 pick and selected a new QB?
Yes where do I sign up
When Tannehill is 37, Miami might finally have competent coaches and players around him.Accept a down year? Another one? Why not. We can accept it, get a top pick and talk about how RT just needs support around him and not draft a QB again.
Well said, Digital. For me, it really comes down to a couple of things. One, is the offense taking off. That's Gase's specialty and the talent level is at least a little above average on that side of the ball. Secondly, I want to see a more disciplined team. That is a tough one because the team is young, but I want to see some pretty major progress there. Too many opportunities were lost last year by penalties and mistakes.So I voted "offense needs to be top 10" but only because my real choice wasn't in the poll.
IMHO, Gase proved himself his first year, taking a injury riddled team switching its offensive and defensive schemes dramatically and coached 10 wins out of a season that should have only had about 5 or 6. Last year, he had no QB and failed, going 6-10 with 8-8 talent. But, his specialty is QB's, he joined because we had a QB, and his gamble on Cutler proved to be a bad decision. So, I cut him a little slack … but QB's go down in the NFL, so you need a solution that keeps you above the 6 win threshold.
This year is the year where I evaluate what he has built. He's now got "his guys" and that includes his QB who knows the system and is still in his prime. Every coach has a 3 year plan … this is the year we judge them. I'm hoping and expecting a 10 win year, but realistically we have about a 9 win roster, so if we don't have a winning record, that looks very bad for Gase. But, if we reach double-digit wins, that helps confirm what we saw his first season … that he can coach out more wins than the roster really has in it.
For the Dolphins to be great, yes, we need top talent. But, we also need a great coach, and the jury is still out on whether Gase is a great coach. I think he is … but this is the year he needs to prove it. If he does, he will be able to attract better and better coordinators and position coaches. Bellichick will eventually retire, and Gase may just inherit the division year after year. But, it all starts this season. Let's see what we've got.
That's what I'm thinking. Obviously I'd love a playoff run. I think that's possible, but I believe the offense will have to be top 10 for that to happen. I don't see a lot of talent on defense, but I do think the secondary could be a strength. Love Howard and the Fitzpatrick draft pick.A top-10 offense, please! The slow grinding games take a toll.
What if Miami has a down year, but Tannehill and the offense are top 10? I see that as a possibility. There could be some nice defensive pieces in the draft and that's where it looks like the team could be weak. Hopefully I'm wrong and there are some nice surprises. Maybe Harris starts to become the pass rusher many expected, maybe the defensive tackles are better than expected etc.Would you except a down year if...... it gets Tannenbalm and Gase fired and we got a top 3 pick and selected a new QB?
Yes where do I sign up
Well if we consider that we're typically playing the nickel most of the time these days, it's only a front 6, and our back 5 is pretty solid, so that helps. With Reshad Jones at SS, Minkah Fitzpatrick at FS, Xavien Howard at CB1, and Bobby McCain at Nickel, that's 4 of the back 5 we're feeling pretty darn good about.Well said, Digital. For me, it really comes down to a couple of things. One, is the offense taking off. That's Gase's specialty and the talent level is at least a little above average on that side of the ball. Secondly, I want to see a more disciplined team. That is a tough one because the team is young, but I want to see some pretty major progress there. Too many opportunities were lost last year by penalties and mistakes.
I can see the offense being above average and the defense being really bad, though. I don't like the look of the front seven, although there could be some surprises. I think there will have to be for at least an 8-8 season.
It is an interesting point. I accept that Tannehill is mid-level quarterback with maybe a year or two where he could reach top 10 depending on the talent around him. But, here's the question. Miami picked #11 last year. The team was in a prime position to trade up a few spots if they wanted a quarterback.I would absolutely accept a down year if it meant we moved on from Ryan Tannehill.
I don't like his resume. I've said that dating prior to when we drafted him. Far too much sucker material, and it has played out that way, actually far beyond my worst nightmares, kind of like the current administration. I don't care about arm strength and stature and accuracy and all of that scouting stuff, the things that lead to so many poor evaluations. I love early brilliance. If the guy hasn't started a college season opener at quarterback until beyond his 23rd birthday then I'd going to comfortably ignore all the outlier examples, and say I don't want him. Much more likely than not, something is wrong...something that can't be fixed and none of the adjustments will account for.
On the other hand, I think there is plenty of reason to believe Adam Gase could be special. A young arrogant points-greedy guy at that job is ideal. Once we had a prodigy quarterback I think most of the promising possessions would work out gloriously, and we wouldn't have to spend day after day and thread after thread debating what we have at the position. I'm reminded of when-you-are-explaining-you-are-losing. Tannehill fans around here explain all year long.