You know what makes an RPO Offense better?

[Coach_Rob]

Rpo is based off what the key tells you. If he sits you hand it off, if he commits to run you throw it. It's not hard. We haven't done much rpo. Alot of what we have done as of late is play action.

 

[Mach2]

Rpo is based off what the key tells you. If he sits you hand it off, if he commits to run you throw it. It's not hard. We haven't done much rpo. Alot of what we have done as of late is play action.

Simply put, correct.

It isn't a mystery. Its basic "hat on hat" football. The reason it works better at the collegiate level is because of the fact that linemen are allowed 3X farther downfield in college on pass plays.

Typically, all the linemen are run blocking regardless of the QBs read, therefore a pass has to be executed almost immediately. There is no time for letting a route develop, or going through progressions.

 

[MD]

Rpo is based off what the key tells you. If he sits you hand it off, if he commits to run you throw it. It's not hard. We haven't done much rpo. Alot of what we have done as of late is play action.

Correct. Tua excels in RPO and PA. If we had a decent OL coach and upgrade at RB the offense is much improved.

 

[cullenbigcstill]

Tua runs RPO exceptionally. He is a pretty good decision maker in the moment. He was plenty fast as a Run threat in college, however in the NFL there are offensive tackles faster and quicker than Tua. He has yet to threaten a defense by runnng. Yes his best ability is Passing, but without a "threat" to run its more of a play action offense or PAO vice RPO.

 

[GhostArmOfMarino]

You don't like the concept in general? Or are you making a "funny"?

Personally I don't like it except here and there on short yardage.

Sure the defense has to be aware of the run and pass, but it puts more strain on the line to do either in my opinion.

 

[GhostArmOfMarino]

Tua runs RPO exceptionally. He is a pretty good decision maker in the moment. He was plenty fast as a Run threat in college, however in the NFL there are offensive tackles faster and quicker than Tua. He has yet to threaten a defense by runnng. Yes his best ability is Passing, but without a "threat" to run its more of a play action offense or PAO vice RPO.

People will tell you the RPO doesn't rely on the QB running, and technically it doesn't, but it really does open up your options since technically any play in any playbook can result in a QB running.

 

[Mach2]

People will tell you the RPO doesn't rely on the QB running, and technically it doesn't, but it really does open up your options since technically any play in any playbook can result in a QB running.

Unless the defense parts like the Reed Sea, I really don't want Tua running.

 

[MD]

Tua runs RPO exceptionally. He is a pretty good decision maker in the moment. He was plenty fast as a Run threat in college, however in the NFL there are offensive tackles faster and quicker than Tua. He has yet to threaten a defense by runnng. Yes his best ability is Passing, but without a "threat" to run its more of a play action offense or PAO vice RPO.

RPO is not based on the running of the QB. Of course a running QB is another option but I don’t want to see Tua running. Durability is the question for him.

 

[cullenbigcstill]

RPO is not based on the running of the QB. Of course a running QB is another option but I don’t want to see Tua running. Durability is the question for him.

This premise of what RPO is based on, is NOT based on the NFL level.

There needs to be a threat for there to be an opportunity available to take advantage of the defenders "choice" or "read."

I know the RPO and use it in coaching.

 

[tay0365]

I agree. You need a RB the D is scared of. We don't possess that player. Could have had him with Harris but we were too smart for our own good.

No more scatbacks or speed RBs, Miami needs a Powerback that can take the 1st hit, and maybe 2nd, before going down.

 

[cullenbigcstill]

I have a feeling Duke will be our power back soon. He will be our biggest back in musculature. He is not a power back, but ya know square pegs in round holes .....

 

[Ninja Foot]

You don't like the concept in general? Or are you making a "funny"?

I mean, it's kind of being funny. But in all seriousness, they should do away with it altogether, along with the Wildcat junk. Either we don't have the personnel on the field to execute or we don't have guys who can teach scheme based assignments.

I'm usually one who prefers the wait and see approach. I feel people, in general, have become impatient with processes and more accustomed to instant gratification and are unwilling to let players develop before calling them a bust and moving on. I don't feel that it's the players inability to execute that's the problem.

I know this is another in a line of failed offensive line coaches, but we need another new one. This line should be insanely good in 2-3 years with a good line coach. That will fix most of the offensive problems imo.

 

[GhostArmOfMarino]

RPO is not based on the running of the QB. Of course a running QB is another option but I don’t want to see Tua running. Durability is the question for him.

Which is fine, but in my opinion that takes away 1/3 of the threat.

It really opens up passing lanes when the defense has to stay at home for the play action and be aware of the QB taking off.

If I had Lamar Jackson I'd run RPO all day knowing if he makes a bad choice or the pass is covered well he can take off.

 

[Mr Fan]

Which is fine, but in my opinion that takes away 1/3 of the threat.

It really opens up passing lanes when the defense has to stay at home for the play action and be aware of the QB taking off.

If I had Lamar Jackson I'd run RPO all day knowing if he makes a bad choice or the pass is covered well he can take off.

If we had Lamar Jackson we would need to use the RPO because he is more RB than QB. That is why Miami blitzed and zero blitzed him endlessly.

Time and time again it has been proven that in the NFL your QB get hit, he becomes less effective and injured. This simplistic form of football really isn't all that different than the old Wishbone/Option/Single wing and dare I say T formation offenses of the past.

These offenses work in college, players are not as big/fast/old. In college a players stays for 2-3 years as a starter, thus it doesn't really matter if he takes a pounding...... by the time the injuries pile up he is gone.

Gimmick football works until defenses catch up or your QB is beaten to a pulp (see Robert Griffin). There are no shortcuts to sustainable offensive football, control the line of scrimmage, protect your QB are the fundamentals and until it becomes a two-hand touch game it always be.....

 

[GhostArmOfMarino]

If we had Lamar Jackson we would need to use the RPO because he is more RB than QB. That is why Miami blitzed and zero blitzed him endlessly.

Time and time again it has been proven that in the NFL your QB get hit, he becomes less effective and injured. This simplistic form of football really isn't all that different than the old Wishbone/Option/Single wing and dare I say T formation offenses of the past.

These offenses work in college, players are not as big/fast/old. In college a players stays for 2-3 years as a starter, thus it doesn't really matter if he takes a pounding...... by the time the injuries pile up he is gone.

Gimmick football works until defenses catch up or your QB is beaten to a pulp (see Robert Griffin). There are no shortcuts to sustainable offensive football, control the line of scrimmage, protect your QB are the fundamentals and until it becomes a two-hand touch game it always be.....

I dont disagree, but it becomes a lot easier to control a defense generally when you are able to do multiple things from same looks.

Whether that look is RPO or otherwise isn't particularly important.

I'd honestly say that a running QB today takes less beating than a pocket passer in the past, so I don't really have a concern about that as long as my QB isn't trying to run over people.

Most injuries come from an awkward hit, not a build up of punishment.