nyjunc said:
-In 1998 in the AFC Championship Game we lost 23-10, it was not a humiliation. What was a humiliation was the week before when denver beat Miami 38-3.
-In 2001 we lost at Oakland 38-24, the game was cemented away until the final 2 minutes when Chrlie Garner broke a long run and put it out of reach. A humiliation would be like the year before wehn Miami lost at Oakland 27-0.
-in 2002 we lost 30-10 but it was a 10-10 game late in the 3rd, it was broken open midway through the 4th. It wasn't like it was 24-0 like Miami at Jax a few years earlier.
Those were not humiliating losses, humiliating losses are when you lose 5 playoff games by a combined score of 164-16. THAT'S Humiliating! When the games are over by the end of the 1st qtr or by the half- THAT'S Humiliating!
I'm glad your happy with your losses by 2 TDs. Jets fans really don't have any other choice.
nyjunc said:
Yeah you are hitting them out of the park All you are doing is ignoring facts but I used to do that when we sucked too.
Last time I checked, these were facts:
Since 1998:
Playoff records: NYJ 3-4, Mia 3-4
Reg season records: NYJ 64-48, Mia 64-48
You cannot get any closer than that.
So are these:
You also have more last place finishes in the last decade.
Last 5 Years:
Miami - 45-35, 2 playoffs (should have been 4)
Jets - 44-36, 3 playoffs
Last 10 years:
Miami - 90-70, 6 playoffs (should have been 8), 2 seasons at .500 or below
Jets - 77-83, 4 playoffs, 4 seasons at .500 or below
The Jets had a better record that the Fins only twice in the last decade.
The Dolphins have had one horrible year. I know its is commonplace for the Jets, but Dolphin fans aren't used to this.
nyjunc said:
If by ZERO you mean 3 then you are correct. He had concussions problems for a few years which slowed him down. The man was one of the best in the game before the concussions.
Give me a break. TWO 1000 yd season out of eight......The point is that they passed on JERRY RICE. How can you not call that a mistake? Al Toon was a good WR, but Jerry 'Friggin' Rice.
nyjunc said:
Jimmy Johnson himself said had he had a choice btw the 2 he would have picked Blair Thomas. That's the man who selected Emmitt.
Quote please.
nyjunc said:
Obviously that was dumb but Kenny had a few great years including leading the league in passing but it quickly faded. Obviously that was the huge mistake but almost every other team made the same mistake.
No. Only the Jets, Pats, and Chiefs. Elway and Kelly also turned out to be HOF QBs. Nobody else selected a QB ahead of Marino.
nyjunc said:
Only 1 was a mistake at the time. We can look back at every draft and figure out who made mistakes after the fact. You guys think Ronnie Brown is going to be a HOFer well we though Blair Thomas would be great too and w/ the dolphins track record of 1st rd picks in the last decade I wouldn't get those Brown jerseys made up just yet.
You cannot escape the fact that they passed on three of the greatest offensive players of all time for three lesser players at the same position. Don't you want to cry when you think that the Jets could have had Marino, Rice, and Smith? It boggles the mind.
Face it, with the exception of 2003 (in favor of the Fins) and 2004 (in favor of the Jets), the Jets and the Fins have been pretty even over the last 7 or 8 seasons.
Since 1998, their records are identical. You want to focus on 4 or 5 individual games, but overall, the
facts support my argument.
