Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by FinAtic8480, Mar 25, 2013.
Man I hope not. I would rather draft a tackle and pay that pick less money, then give up picks and a huge contract.
Totally against this trade.
Absolutely ****ing horrible trade.
Guy is overrated as hell and if we dish out 2 picks for this joker, Ireland will go right back in the doghouse.
Just sign Winston for Christ sake and let Martin get better at LT......
Makes no sense to give up multiple picks and pay a big contract after dumping the would be salary of Jake Long. I thought we were finally starting to value the important positions to win in today's NFL. Trading for Albert would be the same old school heavy investment in O-line that put us in a decade of purgatory. I choose to believe we have turned the corner...come on Jeff pay the playmakers. Sign Winston and draft OL in the 3rd or later.
Yeah Im sorry, I'm only okay with this if it's for a 4th and 7 million a year. Not a 2nd and 9 million a year. Get ****ing real.
Please God no...
dear god no
What.....da Phinz must be joking.......it's a stupid trade idea, simply nuts IHMO :-(
Just because the Fins looked into a trade doesn't mean they will go through with it, might have only been doing due diligence
He's very average and not worth anywhere near a 2nd. Please don't do it Jeff!!!
I would think about it for our #82 pick ... we have the leverage not them... they wanna get rid of him and we are the only team interested.. I could do #82 and a future 6th rounder... if not **** it just sign Winston
Honestly, it probably was just the Chiefs knowing we're hurting on the line and saying "Hey, want Branden Albert?" and us saying "Eh, maybe."
Cheifs & Dolphins have had talks regarding Branden Albert
The closer we get to the draft I wonder if that 2nd round pick that their asking for becomes a third? If so I'd be on board.
Anything more than a 4th rounder is absurd.
If you're willing to give away a 3rd round pick you might as well trade up ahead of San Diego in the draft and get one of the big 3 OT prospects.
good read on Albert
And then you're spending an additional top 12 draft pick so I don't really understand this logic.
I'd rather spend an extra $6 million a year than give up a #12 pick
another paragraph from PFF
Branden Albert, OT, Kansas City Chiefs
Not commonly mentioned as one of the best offensive tackles in the game, Branden Albert has emerged in his contract year as a dominant player. Albert has a total grade of +17.6 (with a pass block grade of +17.0) on the year and has been a bright spot for the struggling Chiefs. He is second in the entire league among offensive tackles in Pass Blocking Efficiency, allowing only eight total pressures in 279 pass block snaps. Included in those eight pressures is just one sack and that came on opening day, which is even more impressive considering the state of flux that is the Chiefs’ offense.
Just sign Winston's *** already.
I'd cost a lot more than $6 million per year. You're looking at a contract that is close to what Jake signed for.
With a top 10 pick to get one of the big 3 OT prospects, you be getting them for a bargain ($3 million or less per year) and they are younger.
What a mistake that would be... Total step backwards
LOL I would not be shocked... Ireland would always rather waste picks AND money than just money.
Ireland wants a right tackle.. Miami has had talks with a lot of players and teams but doesn't mean we will sign them. By Friday Miami will have signed someone I would hope tho lol
Look at it this way. At least Ireland would finally hit on a second round pick if he trades it for Albert....LOL
that would be the worst option expensive would cost picks no
Him and his bad back need to stay in KC
If you'll re-read my post, I said extra 6 million per year.
And the a guy that high would likely cost you 2 mil per year... so I was assuming 8. Thank you anyways.
I still can't believe supposedly the best personnel people in football think a 9 million dollar a year ol is needed on a winning team. Look around- this is not the 80s.
Fill ot cheaply and get pass rush and DBs. This is a passing league. We run a west coast offense whose goal should be to get the ball out ASAP. Don't need a top ot in this system yet will give up multiple picks and money to get a completely unnecessary piece
Sources: Chiefs Shopping Branden Albert, Dolphins a likely landing spot http://t.co/9mjQIvIk2x
Love it. The discussions are going exactly the way I thought they would. They canl get him for much less than a two in the end.
Hell no. Prove that you're a competent GM and draft another decent tackle like you did last year, Jeff.
people are talking about signing Winston without knowing what price he is asking for. Its just funny how peoples logic defies their own logic. Its easy to bank on what you dont know. Then you just dissapear. Ireland cant do that.
This just tells me the Fins have some of the same concerns I have with Martin being our LT. If the concerns are indeed genuine then I would just assume us draft an OT this year as this draft is loaded with them.
Not that loaded. Top three are excellent. The rest are projects.
All you people who have complained about drafting OL with our 1st pick the last few years are going to see it happen again if the OL is not resolved by the draft. I personally would rather have Winston at RT instead of this trade but I trust the FO on this.
miamis in a pickle here...none of the top 3 tackles are getting to pick 10 all could well be gone by detroit at pick #5...you don't want to pay the price to trade up there for an ot...
this is probably the next best option but it's a heck of a price...it will cost more than just a 2nd flat unless kc REALLY REALLY wants albert out...
Great assessment of the current picture of the tackle position. I do think they can get him for less than a #2, but we shall see. That IS the reality that Fin fans must realize.
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This scares me about Winston. Is he losing his fastball based on this?
Ben Volin @BenVolinPBP 18h
Interesting that Eric Winston tied for 4th-most false starts in 2012. Sign of someone trying to jump the snap count? http://bit.ly/Znyc4w
I don't like the idea of drafting another tackle in round one. If we must have an OL in round 1 I would rather get Cooper if he's there at 12. But still would rather pick a skilled guy like Eifert, Austin, or a CB.
guess who else was trying to jump the snap count all over the place all last year...jake long...i told you guys winstons feet do not look all that good...i think he's more buyer beware than people think here...depends on the price i guess...
vollmer signing for less than $7 mil per should bring some of these tackle demands down especially with winston...although vollmer was never signing anywhere but with the pats...that's been known for a while...same for the andre smith with cincy...
anyways we can all thank the top prospects in this draft at other positions for none of the top 3 tackles even getting to #10...they are the cleanest prospects of a very suspect top of the draft...they're gonna fly off the board...
when you see a tackle cheating he's lining up further and further off the ball...trying to get to the outside with that initial kick step as soon as possible to offset the speed rush on the outside...jake long did it all last season and he got away with it a lot...
it's a sign though that a tackles lateral agility and foot speed is starting to fall off...
anyways i'd offer em pick #56 and a contract that averages $7.5 mil per year and see if kc bites...if they want a say 5th rounder in 2014 they could have that also if it would get it done...
but not pick #42...give em #56 and something late and tell em final offer...
you're not sniffing a tackle with alberts poilish at pick #56 unless you probably overdraft a project and can wait on him...like a terron armstead i guess...but we don't want to wait on a guy to develop for 2 years
I didn't know he was out.....lol
Re: Cheifs & Dolphins have had talks regarding Branden Albert
If we do believe in Martin at LT couldnt we get a decent, cheaper, younger but experienced RT in a trade for a reasonable price?
it's either that or you go sign winston to a one or two year deal with an option to get out after year one...i'm thinking they are luke warm on winston not only for his play but because they don't trust the idea of jon martin at left tackle long term...
i think they want a more proven left tackle...
winston is a stop gap right tackle at this point...get a year or two out of him if you can and move on...
Hoops...we have disagreed a lot in the past, but you are killing the assessment here. Folks, what he is talking about is the gosh darn reality of where the OT debate/discussion is at.
Hopefully, this is a tactic to lower the asking price for Winston. Otherwise, I would much rather use one of first 3 picks on an OT.