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Ha Ha very funny my lawyer is a jerk he is a cowboy fan and for me I think the rates went UP after thanksgiving :yell:Justasportsfan said:$84 US would be $1000 Canadian. Man, your lawyers sure make a lot ,eh? :D
Ha Ha very funny my lawyer is a jerk he is a cowboy fan and for me I think the rates went UP after thanksgiving :yell:Justasportsfan said:$84 US would be $1000 Canadian. Man, your lawyers sure make a lot ,eh? :D
Let me make my stance on this clear:dolfan87 said:Being a former admin of this site, I have watched it grow from a small time fan site, to the major fan base force that it is.
However, of the over 4000 members, do you know how many of you have ponied up the dough to become a premium member?
7
Want to know the sick part? at least 4 of those are the admins of this site, and one is a freaking Bills fan. A BILLS FAN!!
I think that is the saddest thing I have ever heard. It takes 24 premium members at $84 a year to keep this website on the internet.
I told AJ yesterday that he should just charge every single one of you. Hell at .99 cents per member, per year, he would be flowing in cash!
But of course he said no. So he is going to auction off some of his Dolphins gear to help pay the expenses. Nice huh?
17 more to go, and the Dolphins faithful are proving yet again to need a swift kick in the butt to get it rolling
I am ashamed of those of you who can honestly afford it, because I know of the over 4000 at least 17 of you CAN!
If this post sounds angry, well it is. You use this place every single day, so have some respect, and pony up.
end rant
Gram
Exactly. Getting mad and ranting is sure as hell not going to influence us to sign up.BLUEPHIN said:2 kids, mortgage, car insurance, 2 freakin dogs, one mother-in-law and direct - tv(sunday ticket), my wife would have my soul if i kicked in cash like that - sorry boys.
P.S. - dolfan87 , you ever hear the saying - you will catch more flies with honey than vinegar, ...just something to think about.
No one cares about what you have to say if you act like an arrogant jackass about it. We get the point, but you're demanding and not asking, and you have no right to tell us what to do with our money.dolfan87 said:Wow,
First of all yes I have heard that you catch more flies with honey, however that wasn't working. There is a real nice honey post stuck up at the top of this page. Since I am no longer a member of the administration, I don't HAVE to be nice about this at all. I am just one of you guys now.
Second of all, I am talking to those members of this board WHO CAN AFFORD THE $84.
If you can't afford it, then I am not talking to you.
If you want to donate a $1, $5, $10, $25, whatever...then do it soon, cause what really made me upset was hearing that AJ had to put his stuff on e bay. That is crappy, and you all know it.
I have a wife, 4 year old, dog, mortgage, direct T.V., a car to rebuild, and this site is still important enough to me to pay the $84.
Whoever made the "should of had prior planning" B.S. statement, I have this to say; what would you of done?
As this site grew, and grew, and grew, it got to the point where AJ and I were freaking out trying to figure out how to pay for this place. We switched to a cheaper server, and the site promptly crashed every couple days. We tried getting advertisers to step up, with very limited success.
There were two options, shut this place down (which we ALMOST did) or ask for help from the people who use this place everyday.
So don't give me this "prior planning" crap.
Look if you all don't care if Fin Heaven is around, then don't pay. Almost everyone who has replied to this thread seems to rank this place just above the toilet paper they wipe with.
However, if Fin Heaven means anything at all to you, if you would miss this place when it gone, then figure out how much it would mean to you to keep it around, and send it A.J.'s way.
Gram
Dolfan954 said:Let me make my stance on this clear:
FinHeaven is a great site, and I've thought about becoming a premium member many times because I realize that this site doesn't run on peanuts, but I'm not willing to make that investment at this time.
While we all understand your point, my guess is (and I could be wrong) you won't get many takers, considering the rude way in which you went about it. Who are you to tell us what to do with our money? We have a lack of premium members, and your response is....a rant? Good luck with that approach in business or with life in general.
This kind of stuff needs to be left to AJ, Muck, TerryTate, and the rest of the staff. They market this site the right way, and communicate with members respectfully.
Dolfan954 said:No one cares about what you have to say if you act like an arrogant jackass about it. We get the point, but you're demanding and not asking, and you have no right to tell us what to do with our money.
How dare you call him demanding :DDolfan954 said:arrogant jackass about it. but you're demanding .
dolfan87 said:Being a former admin of this site, I have watched it grow from a small time fan site, to the major fan base force that it is.
However, of the over 4000 members, do you know how many of you have ponied up the dough to become a premium member?
7
Want to know the sick part? at least 4 of those are the admins of this site, and one is a freaking Bills fan. A BILLS FAN!!
I think that is the saddest thing I have ever heard. It takes 24 premium members at $84 a year to keep this website on the internet.
I told AJ yesterday that he should just charge every single one of you. Hell at .99 cents per member, per year, he would be flowing in cash!
But of course he said no. So he is going to auction off some of his Dolphins gear to help pay the expenses. Nice huh?
17 more to go, and the Dolphins faithful are proving yet again to need a swift kick in the butt to get it rolling
I am ashamed of those of you who can honestly afford it, because I know of the over 4000 at least 17 of you CAN!
If this post sounds angry, well it is. You use this place every single day, so have some respect, and pony up.
end rant
Gram
CO wants to spend money on himself and/or bills...so do I. Is there anything wrong with that?WharfRat said:This statement kills me....
what you're saying is YOUR personal things mean more. You'd rather have a closet full of AFO's, and post over 5000 times on this site the one year you've been here, and let the person responsible for allowing you to be here so much to sell HIS personal stuff, in order for you to:
A: Keep YOUR stuff, and get more
B: Continue to post on the site he sold HIS stuff to save, and
C: act as though he's asking for your last freekin dime, and forcing you to pay.
Nobody said you HAVE to pay... nobody said you'll be banned if you don't...
This site grew from a total of FOUR members to over FOUR THOUSAND in just a few short years. I fail to see how that could possibly be the result of poor planning. We're talking about a small staff of volunteers running this site. AJ and Gram (Dolphan87) started this site on their own. AJ a 14 yr old kid in Tampa, and Gram living out in Arizona. Now the staff consists of that same kid in Tampa (a few years older), Muck, also in Tampa, Myself in NJ, and people like TerryTate, P4E, Dolphan39, and others spread out across the country, who donate time, effort an money to this place so Everyone can enjoy it....all 4000 of you. It's not like we have a fiscal budget, or shareholders to "plan" the financial future of the site.
I've said it in the other thread...if you think it's a cinch to run a site like this, keep it stable, manage 4000+ (and growing daily) members, and offer the features that this site has, all out of your own pockets...then I invite you to contact a hosting company, and get the ball rolling. Good Luck. :shakeno:
Dolphinizzle said:Hate to say it, but I'd have to agree with this post. I'd love to help out this site, but I couldn't afford it. There are more important things in life then a Miami Dolphins forum.
Don't get me wrong here, I love the Phins just as much as the next fan. I enjoy this site, and the information I get, and the fun, in depth conversation from fellow fans around the world. But as much as I enjoy this site, and would love to help out, that price is a little too steep.
I would suggest lowering it, to maybe say $25 dollars a year? I mean come on, you said yourself you only have 7 Premium members. If you significantly lowered the price to support this site, I'm sure you would get many more fans willing to donate.
I'm sure you would get at least 50 fans of 4000, willing to give up 25 dollars annually to help the site. And probably even more than that. So lets do the math.
7premium members x $84.00 = $588.00
50 premium members x $25.00 = $1250.00
That's more than doubling what you are receiving now. It makes sense guys.
Just some food for thought. I'd love to help out, but I really can't afford it at the moment.
Dolfan954 said:CO wants to spend money on himself and/or bills...so do I. Is there anything wrong with that?
Did CO ask you how much it would cost to run a website? Is he interested in running a website?
Is that what his post was about?
That's the kind of arrogance and disrespect I'm talking about.
Apparently you feel the need to talk down to the rest of the members here and try to make them feel bad for not donating money. That's beyond absurd. I've never heard of any non profit organization asking for money like this. No one is forcing us, but you and dolfan87 want to make it seem like we're all jerks for not contributing. I realize that it takes a lot to run this site, but you have no right to talk down to any member just because he or she chooses to do something else with his or her money.
I'll give it to you straight. Ultimately, it's AJ's responsibility to make sure the site stays afloat. It's his site. He created it...he's responsible for it's growth and the costs that come along with it. If it flops, then it's simply a failed business venture; however, let me clear that up by saying that I realize this site is more of a public service than a for profit business.
The points you made about how hard it is to run the site are understandable, but just because the costs are much higher doesn't mean we're going to "pony up."
Funny how Muck always handles situations (no matter how severe) with class, and you choose a different route. Just something to ponder...
I agree. My point exactly. We all understand that it takes $$$ to keep the site running, but the tone of some of the posts on this thread make it seem like we should be ashamed of ourselves or something.ChambersOwnz84 said:I see what you're saying, but Wharf made it sound as if we asked if we could come post here for free. It's the internet man, everything and site is free. Take a look at ESPN Insider for example. Go to google and type in, "ESPN Insider Password". Same thing goes for everything else you have to pay for online...it's all free, and with this being a message board you kind've expect it all to be free.
That post sounded a lot like..."if you have over 5000 posts and post a lot, and you're enjoying the site off of someone else's expenses, then you should pay $84 a year" (I know that's not entirely what he meant)
But like I said, if the site was shutting down I'd definately help as much as I can.
Dolfan954 said:CO wants to spend money on himself and/or bills...so do I. Is there anything wrong with that?
Did CO ask you how much it would cost to run a website? Is he interested in running a website?
Is that what his post was about?
That's the kind of arrogance and disrespect I'm talking about.
Apparently you feel the need to talk down to the rest of the members here and try to make them feel bad for not donating money. That's beyond absurd. I've never heard of any non profit organization asking for money like this. No one is forcing us, but you and dolfan87 want to make it seem like we're all jerks for not contributing. I realize that it takes a lot to run this site, but you have no right to talk down to any member just because he or she chooses to do something else with his or her money.
I'll give it to you straight. Ultimately, it's AJ's responsibility to make sure the site stays afloat. It's his site. He created it...he's responsible for it's growth and the costs that come along with it. If it flops, then it's simply a failed business venture; however, let me clear that up by saying that I realize this site is more of a public service than a for profit business.
The points you made about how hard it is to run the site are understandable, but just because the costs are much higher doesn't mean we're going to "pony up."
Funny how Muck always handles situations (no matter how severe) with class, and you choose a different route. Just something to ponder...