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I don't mind the intrique, I just don't want our front office to reach to high for him. Can Pat White be stud in the wildcat? Of course he can, he would bring another dimension to that formation. If he's there in the fifth, than may be...but I rather hope he falls to the seventh (HIGHLY DOUBTFUL), then we draft him. I trust the trifecta with any decision they make for this team, they've earned it.
 
I don't mind the intrique, I just don't want our front office to reach to high for him. Can Pat White be stud in the wildcat? Of course he can, he would bring another dimension to that formation. If he's there in the fifth, than may be...but I rather hope he falls to the seventh (HIGHLY DOUBTFUL), then we draft him. I trust the trifecta with any decision they make for this team, they've earned it.

When has this Front Office EVERY reached for a player? If White's there in the later rounds, we need to scoop him up. But no way the Trifecta goes after him early.
 
A joke???...yet your avitar is of Brown throwing the TD to Fasano from the Wildcat...might want to re-think your comments.

speaking of avatars (your avatar), where do you guys get these pictures of these two fin chicks. i see them all thru here showing off there nice rears and have no clue where you guys are getting the pics. i would like to examine them more closely as i relax with my thoughts. :lol:
 
Which is why he's falling to the 4th round or later and being touted as a gimmick player, right? Both stats from one game are career highs, by the way, not an average game. The guy has limited arm strength, poor accuracy, and serious fumblitis (which makes the "replace Beck with White" statements funny). Could be a decent WR prospect, but will need a lot of work and won't make an immediate impact until he develops into one, even in gimmick plays, which would only be dangerous if he can sell himself as a dangerous receiving threat.

As soon as you said he has limited arm strength, I realized you are completely lost on this topic. Well actually I realized it in your earlier post.

I could go into great detail about all of this but let me just point out that Pat White has one of the strongest arms out there. I dont think he has the type of accuracy needed to play QB in the NFL on an every down basis(nor the size and pocket presence but, thats a whole other deal I dont feel like getting into) but youre clueless(no offense) to say he has no arm strength. Im sorry bro, but youre way off here.

Let me just inform you that Pat White has a BIG TIME arm as far as the ability to put some mustard on his throws. You must not be aware of the fact that he has been a big time baseball prospect as a centerfielder. The kid has a ****ing hose. He could play pro baseball as a centerfielder mainly for his defensive abilities to run down balls in the outfield and can fire the ball with the best of them. You obviously have never seen him play football.

And youre wildcat statements in the earlier post are off as well. If you think teams would just stack the line if White were taking the direct snap out of the wildcat then I dont know what to tell you. Just go ask any of the teams White played in college how things worked out when they stacked the line and he made it past the first level. Get real.

And that spread he ran at WVU was similar in several ways to our wildcat, especially out of the shotgun. Alot of WVU's plays were out of shotgun and White would be held responsible for reading the coverage and deciding whether to give the ball to the tailback, take it himself, or throwing it.

He has a good enough arm that teams would respect the fact that if they stacked the line that he could beat them with a quick pass that one of our playmakers could score with against a single defender.

Again, he isnt the most accurate, but he has decent accuracy on some of the longer throws that dont need to have alot of air under them between the hashes. He also has serious arm strength.

No way teams would stack the line on us with him taking the direct snap. And again, if we block it right and he gets past the first line of defense, forget about it....even in the league. He is just too fast in pads.

Having him on the field in that formation would just give us way too many playmakers on the field at once and would be a nightmare for defenses. You could mix and match him, Brown, Ricky, Cobbs, Ginn, and Pennington out there. You could put him and Pennington on the field at the same time in that formation and have 2 or 3 different guys who are a threat to throw it. The secondary would have to respect that.

You could also give White a handoff/keep option when Ricky or Ronnie sweeps around like Ricky always did last year. Its just too many guys on the field who can beat the defense for 6 if they dont account for them in that formation. A true nightmare.

White would be a great selection for us in round 3 and probably even round 2.

For those who think it would be a waste to take a guy who may only see 6 or 7 plays a game.....get real. Those 6 or 7 plays a game could result in 2 or 3 huge plays. If we get 2 big plays a game out of White....hell even 1, he is worth every bit of a 2nd or 3rd round pick. Thats a difference maker.

He could be a step up from what Kordell Stewart did when his play helped the Steelers to the Super Bowl his rookie year as Slash.

Sign Coles and Brown and White may be the only pick we need to spend on offense the whole draft.

Not to mention the fact he could basically fill 2 roster spots with one body. We could count him as a WR and also the emergency QB, leaving no need for a 3rd stringer. Which of course means we can finally dump Beck. Thats good enough reason to draft White in itself. Also, it wouldnt mean we would have to dump London. Why couldnt we keep 6 WRs? Hell we wouldnt really have to count White as a WR. Does it really matter anyway? Whats so special about London? If he dosent continue to play well on special teams, do we really need him?

Draft Pat White!!!!:hi5:


Edit : How could I forget to mention, Pat White also has excellent character. He is a leader and a gritty warrior. He speaks well and is a stand up guy. He isnt a dumb thug and will go 100% all the time on the field. He would fit in nicely with this team.
 
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That's debatable. Not to mention, the threat of RB passing is a minor aspect of the formation. You don't draft for one small possibility in a formation that is ran less than 5% of the time.

You draft to acquire players that will help you WIN. Thats what White can do....help us win. By allowing us to be able to score more points he can help us win. Even if he plays just 5 plays per game, if he is good for one huge play a game(even if he dosent make the play himself, but creates the opportunity for someone else to make that play) then theoretically he could add 3-7 points per game to our offense. To me thats worth any draft pick.

And since you wanted to knock his game against UNC, suggesting those were career passing numbers in that game, how about the game against more or less the same Oklahoma team that went to the National Title game this year? All he did was torch that same defense the year before in the Fiesta Bowl. Did you see Tim Tebow light that defense up that way? I know I didnt.

No problem with you personally bro, but you seriously need to clean your loupe on this one. Pat White is a ****ing beast that can help this team win with the playmaking ability he brings.
 
Pat White is only 6'0" 190. There's no way in hell he's an NFL QB. He would best be served moving to WR

And for every person that truly believes that obviously forgets about Doug Flutie who measured in at a whopping 5'10" and 180lbs. I'm not saying that Pat White will be a superstar, but he definately has the skill set to succeed no matter what his size is.
 
i dont need to tell anyone on this board that i've been drinking the Pat White Kool-Aid for a long time now. I have absolutely fallen in love with the idea of drafting him. He may not have a prototypical QB frame and i honestly havent seen enough of him passing to evaluate his arm strength, but he is efficient as a passer. Threw 21 td's vs 7 ints, and had over 60% completions, not bad by any stretch. He is a gamer and a playmaker, but he's humble and a hard worker and unlike a lot of the people that have come before him in a similar mold, he isnt a prima donna. He'll do whatever it takes to win, if that means playing WR, KR, PR, QB, Wildcat, whatever. In other words, he's classy and will do a franchise proud. I'd like to see him add about 10 pounds if he does end up playing WR though.

Basically, Pat White, in my opinion is the kind of player you cant pass on. I will be incredibly disappointed if he does not get picked by us.
 
i dont need to tell anyone on this board that i've been drinking the Pat White Kool-Aid for a long time now. I have absolutely fallen in love with the idea of drafting him. He may not have a prototypical QB frame and i honestly havent seen enough of him passing to evaluate his arm strength, but he is efficient as a passer. Threw 21 td's vs 7 ints, and had over 60% completions, not bad by any stretch. He is a gamer and a playmaker, but he's humble and a hard worker and unlike a lot of the people that have come before him in a similar mold, he isnt a prima donna. He'll do whatever it takes to win, if that means playing WR, KR, PR, QB, Wildcat, whatever. In other words, he's classy and will do a franchise proud. I'd like to see him add about 10 pounds if he does end up playing WR though.

Basically, Pat White, in my opinion is the kind of player you cant pass on. I will be incredibly disappointed if he does not get picked by us.

i see him being picked by us in the fourth round if he is still there. would make a perrfect slash player.
 
Please dont touch White anywhere within the first 5 rounds. I like Quality Starters/ Role players / STers with the early picks in the draft. plus if we draft a center we will have enough of a line that we wont have to rely on a stupid gimmick offense.
 
He is not only a WildCat Specialist, The kid can be a KR/PR something we dont have. The kid can play as a WR and he can also Be an emergency QB. Last, but not least PEnnington next year is a FA and besides Beck who is most likely gone Henne has no one to push him. I think by adding White you get a Third QB/WR/KR/PR/ WC Specialist. The kid brings so many aspects to the team that he should not be passed by.

How do you know he can play wr and return kicks at the NFL level?
 
Excellent post above WV, but I have to take issue with you saying take Pat White in the 3rd, even 2nd. Perhaps on a team with very few holes looking to add a toy on offense, but not on a team thats still looking to build its foundation. Pat White is a playmaker, but how do people even know the Wildcat is in the Phins long term plans? Sparano himself admitted they gave it a shot because they couldnt run the ball. Give me a big, physical O Line that dominates the other team and rams the ball down their throat over having to go gimmick to move the ball.
 
Excellent post above WV, but I have to take issue with you saying take Pat White in the 3rd, even 2nd. Perhaps on a team with very few holes looking to add a toy on offense, but not on a team thats still looking to build its foundation. Pat White is a playmaker, but how do people even know the Wildcat is in the Phins long term plans? Sparano himself admitted they gave it a shot because they couldnt run the ball. Give me a big, physical O Line that dominates the other team and rams the ball down their throat over having to go gimmick to move the ball.
From when Coach Sparano spoke to the national media at last week's NFL Scouting Combine.
http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/2009/02/the-words-right-from-sparanos-mouth.html
Q. Are you still married to it?

A. "It's going to be a part of our personality. There's no question about it. I think our players like it. I think our coaches feel like there's some advantages there. There's some things this offseason that we had to go back and look at and reevaluate how to do it better, those type of things. There was a lot left on the bone that we didn't roll out there during the course of the season for one reason or the other. This gives us a chance this offseason to push the envelope a little bit more."

http://www.nfl.com/combine/story?id=09000d5d80ed42f6&template=without-video&confirm=true
Sparano noted that the Wildcat was a very small piece to the Dolphins' offensive puzzle, but that the team remains committed to the concept. He alluded to the idea that the Dolphins didn't unveil their total Wildcat package during the season and that they'll re-evaluate how to make it even more effective.
 
http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/thedailydolphin/2009/02/21/qb-pat-white-a-wildcard-for-the-wildcat/


I dont care who dislikes not Drafting White, me personally I hope we Draft this kid. White would add the passing option Ronnie could not add. It would morph the Wildcat Completely. So Im on the Pat White bandwagon, plus he replaces Beck and you can kiss Beck *** goodbye. Remember last year when the Tuna signed Jayson Foster last year and the Tuna was in love with the kid. Well Pat White is a Jayson Foster on ten times better and I think the reason we draft him is cause the Tuna will want him. Plus you can never have enough QB. White wont be listed as a QB though he will most probably be a WR on gamedays.

Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Thus, why I have him on my mock draft below. I'd be willing to use the #56 pick on the guy because Mayock says that he doesn't see Pat White making pass the 2nd round of the draft! yikes. Use the #56 pick on White!
 
Bill said it himself, "We need more firepower on offense." We will draft White or Harvin for just that reason. I think White with the second second rounder if he is there.
 
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