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Fins trade for Robert Quinn - 4th round pick and swap of 6ths

NBP81 said:
Wake has not shown any signs of slowing down yet...
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I saw him missed at least 3 sacks that in years past he'd have gotten. He also had stages when he did nothing like for 5 weeks at a time. I'm not saying he's a bad player. I'm saying there's no need to extend him yet again when he's already 36.

Ozzy rules!!
 
Danny said:
I saw him missed at least 3 sacks that in years past he'd have gotten. He also had stages when he did nothing like for 5 weeks at a time. I'm not saying he's a bad player. I'm saying there's no need to extend him yet again when he's already 36.

Ozzy rules!!
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So he should have 25 sacks instead of 22 the last 2 years... hey might as well shoot for the moon!
 
NBP81 said:
Wake has not shown any signs of slowing down yet...
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He struggled last year against the run, a liability even. And they really cut his snaps later in the year.

Still a quality pass rusher, no question, but when you take a DE top 25 last year, a guy who should be a pass rush specialist . . . Then you have a top 12 paid DE in Branch and now a top 6 paid DE in Quinn . . . Not to mention Suh . . . It is a difficult ask to drop 9 million in cap for a guy who can only be situationaly on the field with a 2nd year guy already in the fold to do that for much less.

Plus we likely will return Fede and Malveaux.

And that drop off will happen eventually . . . Good teams know when to expect it. Miami set up his original extension to be able to cut bait at this moment and now have done things to help prepare them for the move.

We’ll see what this master plan ends up being.
 
btw, the Rams have 3 picks in round 6 but I'm guessing we're getting their original which is the 184 pick but it'll be later once they set up all the comp picks

Ozzy rules!!
 
Another 11 million on the cap. Interested to see the moves they're going to make to get under this.

I'm thinking Ndamukong Suh may be dangled to a team that has a ton of cap space, or he'll be a post-June 1 cut.
 
Question: Can Quinn or Harris be successful playing on Wake's side as his replacement longer term? Have they ever played that side? Would we put all 3 on the field together in passing situations?
 
Digital said:
Here are my initial thoughts:

1. Great value for a contract year guy with elite pass rushing tools. It's a 2 year contract (through 2019) but we can get rid of him after 1, so he knows it's really a contract year.

2. Guys picked in the 4th round are a bit of a longshot. They tend to either be longshot boom or bust prospects, which we can classify Quinn as, or they tend to be journeymen types. Regardless, most don't have long careers or make major impacts on teams. In Quinn, we receive a guy with a greater chance than a typical 4th rounder of making a difference, and with far superior tools and track record. Upside is huge, and IMHO, worth taking a 10M flier on the guy.

3. He's more of a two-way player than Branch, Harris or Wake. We needed to improve vs. the run, and this is a step in the right direction. While Hayes is still the superior run-stuffer, Quinn is solid compared to the rest of our DE's against the run, and his upside is probably higher than all of them, including Wake.

4. Back injury ... is he the same player? Likely not, but if he is recovering, this should be his first completely healthy year. Great year to take a gamble on a guy.

5. William Hayes was a success addition, mixed reviews on Andre Branch, and definitely bad reviews on Mario Williams. All of these guys had some potential ... which type will Quinn be?

6. Salary cap is definitely getting crowded, someone's gotta go. Wake, Hayes, Branch ... one of those guys will be re-negotiated, traded or let go.

7. The Dolphins have had a long history of finding good DL, both drafting collegians and bringing in veterans. I think this may be the next good acquisition.

8. This really frees us up to take the Best Player Available (BPA) in the draft at 11. I had been targeting DE's, but now the field is wide open.

9. While Gase is an offensive guy, we definitely are prioritizing becoming a good defensive team. A huge amount of valuable draft resources, contract re-signings, trades, and Free Agent signings are going into this defense. It needs to be good, because the investment is very substantial.

10. One last question I have .... can he play guard? Because it's starting down the same path as last year ... ignoring our OL weaknesses. We better see some good OL players drafted.
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Hayes is no longer on the team.
 
they are going to restructure the kiko, branch, and stills contracts. this will help a lot. they worded them for this situation. branch will be gone after 18. and this could also be a sign for suh.
 
The Goat said:
Honestly, I think this means Landry is gone. With no compensation. Other teams aren't THAT st...

...well, maybe not. Let's see.
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Too many assets at DE. Miami needs to spread the wealth . . . Even if Landry is gone.

Honestly I am not gonna pretend to know what they are gonna do. Who knows at this point.
 
sinPHIN said:
they are going to restructure the kiko, branch, and stills contracts. this will help a lot. they worded them for this situation. branch will be gone after 18. and this could also be a sign for suh.
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Hopefully they trade Branch.

Most likely means James will be cut along with Jarvis Landry being traded....the first two picks of the Dennis Hickey regime
 
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