By the way this is my new name for the Jay supporters who like to refer to us realist as "Fiedler Bashers". I keep seeing "Show me a doable QB Upgrade?" Here it is. Plain and simple. How do we get a better QB? That's not so hard. You rework veterans contracts, you cut the dead weight (Rodgers, Ruddy, etc) and free the money up. You trade for or sign Griese. He isn't wanted he will come cheap from Denver. The cap experts agree that when the dust settles Miami will have the $$ to sign one or two high profile free agents. You also draft a young QB. Maybe a Dorsey or Kingsbury. You throw them in and groom them for the future. When the season starts I like the thoughts of having Griese starting and a talented rookie learning the system for the future. We will be in better cap shape than last year. We managed to sign Ricky didn't we? There is a way. I would also take any of these QBs out there instead of Griese: Plummer Couch Holcomb Bulger Warner Of course I know that many of those will not be available, but I would take any of them that would be. Couch or Holcomb may be a possibility as could be Warner or Bulger. Not enough balls to go around for all those guys. Now here is my counter question...how do you Fiedler Huggers justify Jays pathetic performance the last two games with the season on the line? If you don't have the stats look at my posts or go to NFL.Com and click schedules then go to the games and click on them for game stats. He threw for terrible yardage and terrible completion ratio. What good does the first five games do you if you can not step up when the team needs you ? Final point. When Miami signed Carter, Ricky said on his site that he was glad because they "have no leaders on offense". What does that tell you aout your QB? Sorry but: JAY MUST GO!