hoops scoops...round 3 disaster...

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  1. hoops

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    my god...i wish they had just traded completely out of the round...

    first they overdraft a guy in dallas thomas with low level feet and movement skills to play what i assume is right guard in a zone scheme...i sure as hell hope that's the plan...cause that's a failure at tackle...he's stiff and straight ahead...great...add him to stone feet incog at guard...will this team ever get athletic at guard...i guess the plan right now is to move john jerry out to tackle or to roll with will yeatman...

    then they trade up for what looked like the worst corner at the senior bowl week period in will davis...good lord...guy got used like a wet nap all over the field senior bowl week...to the point where at times it looked like he stopped competing...awful...this is egnew all over again level stuff...trade high level 4th 5th and 7th round picks for this camp fodder

    i guess i should be happy they at least got a good value at #56 with short arms jamar taylor...batted 1 for 3...
     
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    Prepare to get flamed
     
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    In your opinion.
     
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    I just do not think there was much value. I loved the trades and the three picks lined up in round 4...to trade back into the 3rd...JI must have been spooked by something.

    Maybe these players are okay. However, I think there was better value and if they think Thomas is a LT candidate...holy ****....

    Still a good draft to this point...
     
  5. J. David Wannyheimer

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    I got a feeling we're going to be upset with the pick at WR tomorrow. I think you heard right.
     
  6. hoops

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    i fully expect it...not many people here that like the truth...dallas thomas was a reach but i guess i can deal with that at right guard but will davis??? i mean you could have thrown a dart at the board with every corners name at the senior bowl week and done better...truly terrible...

    throw that scouting report these guys have in the garbage
     
  7. Phins117

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    That jamar Taylor is def the best pick we got all day. That Dallas is trash. Seriously.
     
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    Jamar Taylor is an excellent pick. Superb value.
     
  9. J. David Wannyheimer

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    Philbin said they drafted Thomas to play the left side.

    Can Richie Incognito play RG? Because if not, it sounds like he is going to be the next guy shipped out.
     
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    Who is left other than swope (who I don't want).

    ---------- Post added at 11:26 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:26 PM ----------

    I mean will Davis.
     
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    My hope is we hit big on our first two picks early tomorrow in the 4th. Lots of talent still left. I would love to add Swope or Quinton Patton at WR. Maybe David Bahktiari, the CU Guard/Tackle, or Franklin, the UCLA RB. They did skip over some good talent like Stedman Bailey, but I will see what Ireland does on Saturday. Right now, I would give the draft a B- .
     
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    thank you hoops.... someone who actually knows the prospects happens to agree with me...... SURPRISE..... just get ready to get flamed like I did in my thread...........
     
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    Very underwhelmed by the third round.

    Round two was good, though.
     
  14. hoops

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    yes incog can play the right side...it's where he's best suited...but you aren't getting much more athletic plugging this kid on the left side...you get a little more mauler but you still got average movement skills at a critical position
     
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    It seemed like Ireland panicked with the run on corners and decided at the last minute to trade up, similar situation to the Daniel Thomas pick two years ago.
     
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    Why if someone like Hoops is being constructive in his criticism get flamed? Can't people have a legit take...positive or negative...and we have a discussion?

    Anyways, the 4th round is huge. Lots of value left and the Fins are at the top with two picks.
     
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    I didn't get to see the rounds because of work but already hate the fact we pick Davis and Dallas over Keenan Allen and bailey
     
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    He's actually better there.
     
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    The thing that nobody seems to be talking about but me is that he suffered a torn labrum at the Senior Bowl. That's a six month recovery putting him out for training camp & probably starts the year on the PUP to build his strength & get into some practices.
     
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    I was surprised that Bailey lasted as long as he did. And doubly surprised that we traded down instead of selecting him.
     
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    this is bush league
     
  22. fanfin

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    I know thats what I tried to do in my thread.... unbiased looked at the 3rd round and I hated it as much as I loved the entire off-season previous to the 3rd round of the draft
     
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    Right, that seems to be the conventional wisdom, I'm just trying to figure out the strategy here. I can't really believe they drafted Thomas to play LT.
     
  24. Phins117

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    I was shocked they fell. Seriously thought that would be a steal for us.
     
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    i think he panicked when terron armstead went right in front of us at #77...and i know he panicked when he traded up for will davis...same thing he did last year when the te's came off and he took egnew in the 3rd and then backed it up with like the last pass rush prospect on the board in olivier vernon...

    you can tell when a gm reaches or lets need dictate...and he felt the heat tonight...

    will davis...i sure hope that doesn't make the roster like egnew did last year cause he's a 3rd round pick...i wouldn't take that at corner over anything that made the roster in 2012

    this kid davis was bad in off man and press senior bowl week...got destroyed by every one he lined up against...i wish i was joking
     
  26. Phinatic8u

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    It was meh to me.

    I don't get worked up over mid to late round picks. It's usually all about Value at this point in time.
     
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    I was a little disappointed with the two third rounders but I'm a little shocked at the overreaction people are having at Dallas Thomas. He was a late second round talent taken in the third. Davis was a fourth or fifth round talent depending on who you ask. Third was a little high but maybe the dolphins had him rated higher. I don't think these were a+ picks but they weren't fails either. Probably b+ for Dallas and c+ for davis
     
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    Both picks are crap. Why does Ireland always do this kind of bs. At least he didn't fudge up the 2nd round.
     
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    Are you serious? Can we at least wait till he steps on the field before declaring he needs to be cut
     
  30. hoops

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    you got to be kidding me...the kid was awful before he tore his labrum and now he's looking at a 6 month recovery??? please tell me that you are joking??? this is embarrassing
     
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    this +1 Brandon McGee is far more intriguing prospect and will be available tomorrow.........
     
  32. hoops

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    you go ahead...just like you all waited on egnew my friend....ha ha
     
  33. Phins117

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    lololol
     
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    Correction eggnog
     
  35. fanfin

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    that said hoops I'd rather us nail our first 2 picks and FA and **** up the 3rd round...
     
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    The senior bowl outweighs everything he did his senior year when he led the nation in passes broken up per game at 1.75? And he was one of the better performers at the combine at CB as well. For a guy who only played 1 year of high school ball and is still learning how to play football he seems like a pretty good prospect.
     
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    For a little perspective, take a look back through about the last five third rounds of the NFL draft and see the percentage of players who have become any good in the NFL.
     
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    I know you gotta be coming around to Jordan soon enough..... with Grimes and Taylor at CB and Wake rushing the other side..... that burst off the ball, the length, the quick hands, short are quickness, closing speed are all elite.... I think Miami gets the best player in the draft 3 years from now in Jordan
     
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    I respect your opinion and enjoy all your great write ups. But lets be honest, there's a reason you're posting on a forum and not getting paid to talk prospects. No one knows how these guys will pan out or what position they can and can't play.

    No reason any Dolphin fans should be negative with the way yesterday and today had played out.
     
  40. Phins117

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    I really hope tomorrow we can redeem ourselves here. Is there enough talent for the offensive side of the ball out there
     
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    NFL.com compares Will Davis to Alterraun Verner and if that's the case then he's a pretty solid end of round 3 pick.
     
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    ok so you plan on stashing this kid i guess...he played in a bad conference where he rarely faced anything at wr...and when he did face solid comp and pro prospects senior bowl week he was plum awful...i'm sure he interviewed like a boss though ha ha
     
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    Bet its Martin at LT. Dallas Thomas LG Pouncey C Incognito RG and John Jerry RT
     
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    yeah it's called lack of opportunity as to why i'm not getting paid my friend...cause i can absolutely do it...and i bet you if you look at my history i'm batting as well as just about any of these guys that do get paid to do it...i've called just about every bad draft decision they've made the last few years after the draft...go ahead and add will davis for me to the list...i'm not afraid...the only saving grace is maybe this kid can show well in zone...
     
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    There was more then 1 player avaliable to us that could have helped made a difference in games.

    I'll agree you cant get to overly angry about this sort of thing. Teams bust on third round picks all the time, it happens. But the value was there. Players fell into our laps and we passed on them, traded back, or refused to move up and grab someone we should have coveted. To me, thats something people can be legitimately annoyed with.

    Good general managers take advantage of value picks. Bad ones panic when the unexpected occurs. I think we all saw what happened tonight.
     
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    Depends on if it was more than a 50% tear or not and if they did a repair or a debridement on it. Not that I'm an NFL athlete but I just had my shoulder fixed on the 12th of this month to repair a partially torn labrum, rotator cuff and clean up bursitis and arthritis and luckily they were able to just do a debridement so that I will be good to go in 2-3 months at worst. Heck I'm 2 weeks in as of today and am already out of the sling and have 75% of my range of motion and strength back in the shoulder already.
     
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    Your non-GM opinions aren't truth or facts. I'm sorry that you thought they were.
     
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    I don't see any reason for him to have to start or even play big minutes in his 1st year since we have Grimes, Taylor, Marshall and Patterson who would all be ahead of him on the depth chart at the very least.
     
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    not sure if this has been posted, but if it makes anyone feel any better he did run the fastest times in the 3-Cone and Shuttle drills...
    http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft/combine/_/id/92

    He has all the physical tools to be a great corner but just lacks experience and coaching..let's see if this staff can make the best of him
     

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