I honestly don't think that was a factor. The '85 team and '86 team scored about the same amount of points - 52 TDs to 56 TDs (70 in '84). The '85 team was 12-4 and the '86 team (when he tossed a mere 44 scores) was 8-8 and started the season 1-4. The '85 team had more rushing TDs than the '86 team - likely correlated to the fact the team was ahead in most games. The '86 team trailed all the time and Dan had to try to manage a lot of comebacks. I think that's really the difference - Dan's play in '85 was not noticeably any different than in '84 or '86 to be honest. He was just as lethal and the TDs scored by this offense those 3 years bears that out. Over that 3 year span he threw 122 TDs or 40 per year. That's just crazy - especially back then.In 1985, Marino also held out most of that pre-season. I remember a televised pre-season game showing him in the stands, watching. He came back just before the season opener, I believe. That season, while still good, he didn't have the same chemistry with his receivers after having missed most of pre-season. Other defenses also adjusted by not giving him much deep and by making him take what they would give him underneath. In 1984, he had a lot of big play, deep balls. A lot less in 1985. I have most of the games from both of those seasons on DVD and have watched them on occasion- it is totally different watching the 85 games vs the 84 games.
I honestly don't think that was a factor. The '85 team and '86 team scored about the same amount of points - 52 TDs to 56 TDs (70 in '84). The '85 team was 12-4 and the '86 team (when he tossed a mere 44 scores) was 8-8 and started the season 1-4. The '85 team had more rushing TDs than the '86 team - likely correlated to the fact the team was ahead in most games. The '86 team trailed all the time and Dan had to try to manage a lot of comebacks. I think that's really the difference - Dan's play in '85 was not noticeably any different than in '84 or '86 to be honest. He was just as lethal and the TDs scored by this offense those 3 years bears that out. Over that 3 year span he threw 122 TDs or 40 per year. That's just crazy - especially back then.In 1985, Marino also held out most of that pre-season. I remember a televised pre-season game showing him in the stands, watching. He came back just before the season opener, I believe. That season, while still good, he didn't have the same chemistry with his receivers after having missed most of pre-season. Other defenses also adjusted by not giving him much deep and by making him take what they would give him underneath. In 1984, he had a lot of big play, deep balls. A lot less in 1985. I have most of the games from both of those seasons on DVD and have watched them on occasion- it is totally different watching the 85 games vs the 84 games.
I just have a real hard time understanding how Brazile gets consideration before Randy Gradishar.
That's fair. Those two have pretty similar stats. I knew of Gradishar but rarely saw him play in the NFL. Not many Broncos games down south. As a native of Mississippi, I saw Brazile in college as well in the NFL quite frequently. Am I biased? Might could be.... :D
If you never saw Gradishar just think of Zach Thomas at 6'3 235 (decent size for a 1970's linebacker). Gradishar was a tackling machine.
Marino was the type of player who changed the way defensive coordinators designed coverages. He was transcedent in that regard. It wasn't simply about numbers. Marino could beat double coverage simply because of the velocity and accuracy of his throws.
I recall Jim McMahon in an interview remarking that Marino could complete passes that he had no business throwing. Many of you are too young to have witnessed the phenomenon of Dan Marino in his prime.
Rivers isn't even in the same stratosphere.