Yeah, worst part of the game.
Horrible thing to hear. That kid had a LOT of talent too.
Yeah, worst part of the game.
I understand what you are saying about taking a TE in the 1st round, but I see this as an economist - supply vs demand... Lots of teams need a good TE and there are so few in the league. This will force the TE needy teams to consider going higher than they would like. Don't be surprised when Hurst gets taken in the 1st round. It is basic supply and demand.I don't see a TE going in the first round. I can easily see a run on the position starting once the first guy goes off the board though. This is a deep class, but the difference between the second and third round could be the difference between Dallas Goedert and Ian Thomas, which is significant. I think we have to draft a TE at 42. It's an absolute must.
Gesicki is really growing on me. He's 1a/1b with Goedert to me. Hurst's age puts him third but I'd be happy with him. Gotta come away with one of those guys on day two, IMO. Tannehill has an improved line, solid group of receivers, and a better scheme fit at RB. All we're missing is a tight end to bust this offense wide open.
It's been too long since we've had a legit receiving threat at the position. Charles Clay was a one year tease.
A comment I made in another thread got me thinking about where the TE's might come off the board and who may or may not be inclined to consider the position. I realistically started my breakdown with the Rams at 23. Scoring them on a 1-10 scale, 10 being more likely, 1 least. OJ Howard, David Njoku and Evan Engram are all better prospects than anything 2018 has to offer so I think it's possible no TE's go in the first.
23. Los Angeles Rams - Tyler Higbee, 2016 4th round pick. Need is there but value likely isn't.
Score: 2
24. Carolina Panthers - Greg Olsen, awesome player but one eye on retirement already. Value still not great.
Score: 2
25. Tennessee Titans - Delanie Walker, 2017 3rd round pick Jonnu Smith (*FIU*).
Score: 2
26. Atlanta Falcons - Austin Hooper, 2016 3 round pick. Matt Ryan rarely looks his way. I like this guy as a no.2 if he were available.
Score: 3
27. New Orleans Saints. No one. Biggest need so far by a team at TE.
Score: 5
28. Pittsburgh Steelers. Jesse James. Servicable player but they've always gotten more from the TE.
Score: 4
29. Jacksonville Jaguars. Signed Austin-Sefarian Jenkins this week. They could use another, not in the 1st.
Score: 2
30. Minnesota Vikings - Kyle Rudolph has rebounded nicely not missing a game the last 3 years and putting up 20 TD's. They don't have many holes but would be better served with an OL than TE. Still possible.
Score: 4
31. New England Patriots - Drunkowski. The end will come quick for this scum bag. Belichek knows the value of a TE better than any NFL coach. Needs might keep them from being able to take Drunk's replacement.
Score: 3
32. Philadelphia Eagles - Zach Ertz. Like New England, Philly loves the TE spot. They lost Burton to Chicago but are more in the market for a blocking TE. No 2nd round pick means no TE in the first.
Score: 2
33. Cleveland Browns - David Njoku. 2017 1st round pick with a buttload of talent. I wouldn't be shocked if they decided to use the 33rd pick to select the draft's first TE and bolster that offense even more. LT became a big need after Thomas retired so a 2nd TE is luxury. Having picks 35 and 64 makes anything possible with this team.
Score 3
34. New York Giants - Evan Engram, same boat as Cleveland but without the excess picks. Not gonna happen.
Score: 1
35. Cleveland Browns - See 33.
Score: 3
36. Indianapolis Colts - Jack Doyle. Solid player, they don't have to take a TE but with the extra picks in tow, getting Luck help is always on the agenda. Arguably the NFL's worst roster needs everything.
Score: 4
37. Indianapolis Colts - Look up.
Score: 4
38. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - OJ Howard. Nuff said.
Score: 1
39. Chicago Bears - 2017 2nd round pick Adam Shaheen, Trey Burton and Dion Sims. Very solid group.
Score: 1 (Should probably be a 0 but never say never)
40. Denver Broncos - 2017 5th round (should've been 2nd round) pick Jake Butt, Todd Huereman. Solid group that could use bolstering for sure. Butt has potential and they probably want to see where he's at post ACL injury.
Score: 3
41. Oakland Raiders - Jared Cook, 30 years old. 54 receptions, 688 yards, 12.7 per but only 2 TD's. Might have to take a closer look at some of Jon Gruden's teams to figure his TE usage. He had Ricky Dudley in Oakland and then brought him to Tampa along with Ken Dilger. By his third year in Tampa Dilger and Dudley were still his top 2 TE's.
Score: 4
42. Miami Dolphins - Finally, the Miami Dolphins get a TE. Who though?
43-64. If you need a TE, get ahead of Miami.
I am curious to know if anyone has a better read on any of these teams and their TE situations.
Obviously we won't take a TE at 42 if he's not worth the pick but I am ok with moving up to get the one we want.
Hurst is 24, turning 25 in August. It's not a big deal if he's your 2nd round pick. It is a big deal if your taking him in the first.
Last guy that old that I can remember going in the late first was Danny Watkins, the OG who went to Philly. That was a disastrous selection but primarily because Watkins sucked.
If your an analytics guy, his age doesn't matter. If your an old school guy, it really matters.
Right now, Dallas Goedert is my guy at 42.
Mike Gesicki is interesting but Saquan Barkley is going to be a legend and what are the odds two Penn State players are great in one draft class? Usually takes them 10-15 years to produce 2 quality NFLers.
I rank the TE’s strictly on talent
1. Hurst
2. Godert
3. Andrews
4. Thomas
5. Gesiki
I really don’t get the love for Gesiki is it because he is 6”8 ? I just don’t see him as a special player or even a top 50 pick.