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Merged: Tedd Ginn Jr. Pro Day results!

Ginn isn't a #9 pick and there are receivers that will be available later that had much more production on the field. Look at Higgins. He'll likely be available at 60 and had twice the college production that Ginn did. Some say, oh, Higgins can't run routes. Yeah, whatever, I don't care if he can run routes or not as long as he keeps scoring TD's like he did in college, 32 of them in the last three years. Oh yeah baby!

GO PHINS~!
 
cltchperf said:
At first I was wondering since I thought he was supposed to have amazing speed. But from the report they said it was raining, and he is still dealing with a sprained foot, which is pretty good to run at that speed when still getting over his injury that he had in of the bowl games. It only takes a little bit to make the 40 time a little slower.
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Yes, but when you are an unpolished receiver with average to below average hands and size and your entire reputation is reliant on blazing speed a 40 time in the upper 4.3's in a HUGE disappointment.
I had heard that this guy had world class speed. That would imply a 40 time in the 4.28-4.32 range.
He didn't even come close and as far as I'm concerned he is a mid to late 1st rd pick at best. If he didn't play in the spotlight at OSU he would be fortunate to be a 2nd or 3rd rd pick.
 
Agent51 said:
OK fine, so he wasn't celebrating (I watched the game but don't remember what happened after that play), but it's still taken him 4 months to recover from an ankle sprain. And even minus the sprain, he is still a 178lb guy who isn't aggressive enough to beat the press/bump n run coverage and a crappy route runner. He's not even as fast as reported. The guy is a glorified return specialist that succeeded at WR in college due to nature of the game. I want nothing to do with him.
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I agree with you. Out of all the players projected to go in the top 10 he is easily the one who has the greatest chance of being a complete bust in the NFL.
I would take a chance on him in the 3rd rd, though.
 
SR 7 said:
I'd cry. Hjoepfully a mcneal type of asteal from last year.

Don't mind typos on phone.

4.38 is fast but so slow since we know its ginn loll pretty funny. But why is the injury still there? Been a while now
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It is slow when all we have been hearing about is his alleged "world class speed". World class speed is in the 4.28-4.32 range.
He is a relatively undersized (skinny) WR with suspect hands and unpolished route running. He ran a 40 in the 4.4 range. Whooppee. There are plenty of small college WR's that can run in the 4.4 range every draft and you don't hear anybody projecting them in the top 10.
The guy has the greatest chance of any projected top 10 pick of being a colossal bust.
 
Well not many can run a 4.38 while still being injured and the rain and a windy day. I dont know why they didnt have him run indoors. Trust me he is no bust and no one makes moves like him in this draft and has the speed and skills he has. Ask Florida!
 
Think this is the case of different stopwatches?

NFL | More on Ginn Jr. 40 times
Wed, 11 Apr 2007 17:38:43 -0700
Updating a previous report, <A href="http://www.kffl.com/link/17">Len Pasquarelli, of ESPN.com, reports Ohio State WR Ted Ginn Jr. ran the 40-yard dash three times. Scouts at the workout clocked Ginn's times between 4.37 seconds and 4.45 seconds.

NFL | Ginn Jr. workout update
Wed, 11 Apr 2007 17:33:04 -0700
Updating a previous report, Todd McShay, of Scouts Inc., writing for <A href="http://www.kffl.com/link/9">ESPN.com, reports Ohio State WR Ted Ginn Jr. was timed at 4.41 seconds, 4.45 seconds and 4.49 seconds in his three attempts of the 40-yard dash.

NFL | Ginn Jr. runs fast 40 time
Wed, 11 Apr 2007 16:35:42 -0700
Tim MacMahon, of the Dallas Morning News, reports Ohio State WR <A href="http://www.kffl.com/player/14946/nfl">Ted Ginn Jr. ran the 40-yard dash in the 4.3s during a workout at the university's campus.
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TexanPhinatic said:
WTF are you talking about? Did you see him abuse aaron ross in the Texas game? Ross tried being aggressive, crowding the line, bumping early, all that, and Ginn just TORCHED him!

He is as dynamic a playmaker as there is in this draft. And his ankle is good enough to get him a 4.40 at maybe 80-90% in the RAIN on a cold day! Guy can MOVE!
He doesnt NEED to run precise routes because hes so fast! Running brilliant routes is important for a slower/possession type guy to get open, for a guy as fast as Ginn its not an issue.

BTW, any word if he works out again before the draft?? I thought he had scheduled another one for next week.
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Yamon Figurs did the same thing to Ross...for 123 yds....and you can get him alot cheaper.
 
Dang, so Calvin Johnson, who outweighs Ginn by 60 lbs ran a faster 40? Regardless of being "hurt" or not, this should definately make his stock fall. The reasoning of him not being fully recovered to cover up his subpar 40 time should only dampen his stock further as his durability seems to be really shaky. I wouldnt be surprised if he fell into the 2nd round. The fins would completely ruin their draft if they opt to take this guy over trading up for Quinn.
 
badbutt316 said:
Dang, so Calvin Johnson, who outweighs Ginn by 60 lbs ran a faster 40? Regardless of being "hurt" or not, this should definately make his stock fall. The reasoning of him not being fully recovered to cover up his subpar 40 time should only dampen his stock further as his durability seems to be really shaky. I wouldnt be surprised if he fell into the 2nd round. The fins would completely ruin their draft if they opt to take this guy over trading up for Quinn.
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To be fair, you can't compare CJ to Ginn. Most good wideouts either have 6'3 and up size or 4.45 and under speed with good hands. CJ unfairly has all of them in the same package. That's why he so highly regarded in this draft. An unnatural combination of speed, skill, and size. Imagine the best parts of TO's game mixed with a little Marvin Harrison and Steve Smith. Scary.

As for Ginn, he did run a pretty good 40 time but his having to cut the workout short is what concerns me. He'd be a great 2nd round pick if he falls though.
 
Regan21286 said:
To be fair, you can't compare CJ to Ginn. Most good wideouts either have 6'3 and up size or 4.45 and under speed with good hands. CJ unfairly has all of them in the same package. That's why he so highly regarded in this draft. An unnatural combination of speed, skill, and size. Imagine the best parts of TO's game mixed with a little Marvin Harrison and Steve Smith. Scary.

As for Ginn, he did run a pretty good 40 time but his having to cut the workout short is what concerns me. He'd be a great 2nd round pick if he falls though.
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One of the dream scenarios many of us have been going coo-coo for cocoa-cocoa puffs on has been:

1- Quinn
2- Ginn Jr. (now I'm not sure where we picked Quinn nor what we used)
3- Andy Alleman
4- Dan Bazuin
 
PhinstiGator said:
Yea, we watched Travis Daniels never really get back to speed last season w/ a ankle injury.

The encouraging thing about Ginn jr is that some of the critics didn't believe he would be able to run before the draft...and though he is not full speed...he is consistently able to run in the 4.3ish range while injured.

He was just starting to jog at the combine and now he is cranking out 4.3's. I'd keep a close eye on his times in the next two weeks.
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I could easily say he was cranking out 4.45s and we all know that hand held times are very inacurate.You can add anywhere from 3/10 to 5/10 a second
to hand held times to get a comparison to electronic times according to
PARISI SPEED SCHOOL where most of the top players go to get ready for the combine.

So please don't fantasize about 4.3s or 4.2s

IT IS WHAT IT IS NOTHING MORE
 
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