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Miami likely to get a compensatory pick in 2013

ckparrothead said:
Not so sure about that. The compensatory process has been relayed to me as being extremely formulaic, hence there are some people that are pretty sure they've got it nailed down and they're able to predict within a small margin what picks are going to be handed out each year. Marshall's lack of playing time and spending time on IR strikes me as a non-formulaic consideration that would be hard to plug into a formulaic construct.
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Now there's a word you don't hear that much.... FORMULAIC...

and sounds to me that you enjoyed using it :)

Ta for the info.
 
Whoever came up with the formula decided that no matter what, we'd get an extra 6th round pick once every 3 years while NE gets 4 picks(all in the 3rd round)every year.

Ozzy rules!!
 
ckparrothead said:
Not so sure about that. The compensatory process has been relayed to me as being extremely formulaic, hence there are some people that are pretty sure they've got it nailed down and they're able to predict within a small margin what picks are going to be handed out each year. Marshall's lack of playing time and spending time on IR strikes me as a non-formulaic consideration that would be hard to plug into a formulaic construct.
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Playing time is part of the formula, and the fact that Marshall didn't play much will help Miami's chances. Just like Henne starting at the end of the season in Jacksonville will also help.
 
Any compensation pick formula questions should go to a guy that uses the screen name AdamJT13 on various NFL/Draft message boards. He's the only person I've ever encountered that has predicted the picks with a high success rate.
 
ckparrothead said:
Link?
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Take your pick:

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/0900...tributes-compensatory-draft-picks-to-15-clubs

Compensatory free agents are determined by a formula based on salary, playing time and postseason honors. The formula was developed by the NFL Management Council. Not every free agent lost or signed by a club is covered by this formula.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Football_League_Draft

Compensatory picks cannot be traded, and the placement of the picks is determined by a proprietary formula based on the player's salary, playing time, and postseason honors with his new team, with salary being the primary factor.
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http://www.cbssports.com/general/bl...-compensatory-picks-for-use-in-the-2012-draft

Compensatory free agents are determined by a formula based on salary, playing time and postseason honors. The formula was developed by the NFL Management Council.
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http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2012/03/nfl_awards_giants_a_fourth-rou.html

The process is based on a secret formula developed by the NFL Management Council that takes into account salary, playing time and postseason honors.
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http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/...eland-Browns-Green-Bay-Packers-awarded-032612

Compensatory picks are awarded based on a complex NFL management council formula that accounts for the net loss of free agents based how many a team signed and surrendered, while accounting for salary, playing time and postseason honors.
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http://www.profootballweekly.com/2012/03/26/nfl-awards-compensatory-picks-raiders-nab-third-ro

The NFL uses a formula based on salary, playing time and postseason honors to determine compensatory free agents.
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This is from the guy most known around the internet who is most accurate in predicting compensatory picks:

http://adamjt13.blogspot.com/2010/03/projecting-2010-compensatory-nfl-draft.html

Compensatory free agents are determined by a secret formula based on salary, playing time and postseason honors.
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http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/37455/cowboys-giants-each-pick-up-a-pick

Not every free agent is deemed to have compensatory-pick value, based on the league's formula that takes into account salary, playing time and postseason honors.
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http://content.usatoday.com/communi...1/03/nfl-draft-compensatory-picks-announced/1

A formula devised by the NFL's Management Council considers a free agent's salary, playing time and postseason honors in order to determine the value of each compensatory pick.
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Buddy said:
Wow, so we didn't get squat. Why does that not surprise me?

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Ok, I just looked at the date on that article...I am a dumb ass!

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ToeJam & Earl said:
I am not sure if you saw this or not Nublar but CK posted the work you did in the first post of this thread on another Dolphins fan site. Didn't give you credit and seemed to try and pass it off as his own work, yet part of it was clearly just a copy and paste of the original post.
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LOL. Way to come off looking like a 6 year old girl tattling to mommy.

For the record, I don't believe I did anything wrong and here is exactly what I posted, all of the information which I verified myself independently and even edited to dis-include a player that Nublar7 had mistakenly included.

The qualifying signings and losses would be the following, IMO:

Projected Dolphins Signed qualifiers:
Artis Hicks - (1 year, $2,000,000)
Richard Marshall - (3 years, $16,000,000)

Projected Dolphins Lost qualifiers:
Chad Henne - (2 years, $6,750,000)
Will Allen - (1 year, $1,000,000)
Kendall Langford - (4 years, $24,000,000)

If what this CT guy says is true about signed plays canceling out guys with similar contracts or lower contracts, before higher contracts...then it would seem Richard Marshall would cancel out Chad Henne, Artis Hicks will cancel out Will Allen, and that would leave Kendall Langford uncanceled.
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I'm an open book. If anyone has a problem with this please feel free to discuss it with me.

EDIT: The reason I noted that this was "IMO" instead of the opinion of Nublar7 was specifically because Nublar7 thought Legedu Naanee would be included in the formula whereas I have come to believe that he would not be because his contract is not over the million dollar threshold. Just wanted to explain that.
 
ToeJam & Earl said:
It is lazy to copy and paste something another person took time to write out. Your verification process was highlighting what Nublar typed out and copied and pasted it on another forum. You did edit a couple of players out and tried to update it and improve on it but the foundation of your post was a copy and paste job. That is just lazy in my opinion.

You even admitted in this thread earlier that you really didn't understand the compensatory process and mistakenly left out playing time until Geforce corrected you. You are not a guru on compensatory picks so don't pretend like you are. My beef isn't that you used the same exact information that Nublar did because that information is out on the internet that everyone can find and use. My disappointment is that you took his original post and flat out copied and pasted it. Again that is just lazy.
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1. We're talking about a forum post, not a newspaper or blog article. And not even a forum THREAD. Just a post within a thread saying what I think. No, it's not in any way whatsoever out of bounds to copy and paste a list over in a forum post, especially when you verify the information yourself and edit it in order to impress your opinion onto it.

2. No, that was not my verification process. I verified that the contract values were close enough to correct, and I double-checked each name on the list to see if it met the criteria for inclusion in the compensatory pick formulas. Hence, I edited out Legedu Naanee who does not meet the criteria.

3. Who said I'm a compensatory pick "guru"? Certainly not me. Yes, I admitted right here in this thread that I don't know the compensatory pick process very well. Hence in the three weeks or so between this thread and the other one, at SOME point I actually LEARNED more about the compensatory process. And that's how I knew Legedu's contract probably wouldn't qualify for the process. Whaaaa? You mean I don't come in here, post on a thread, and then go into hibernation until the next thread? LMFAO.

4. Are you Chris Cordero? Because this is actually pretty funny.
 
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