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next-year said:
I want vontaze burfict so so bad
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I was a big Burfict fan as an ASU alum, but he had a really bad senior year and an attitude problem. He gets penalized for late hits, helmet to helmet hits, hitting guys out of bounds, etc. He went from being a top ten pick to a guy that will be taken late in the first round, so we might as well not bother with him.
 
watching branch he moves pretty well and i'm seeing some pretty solid looking lateral agility and he looks ok when hes asked to drop...plays standing up an awful lot which is what i want to see for a 34 olb convert but he's got an average first step and lacks explosion and burst in his pass rush...i definitely think he's a 34 olb but i don't know how much success this guys gonna have going one on one against nfl tackles off the edge...

watching melvin ingram the other day i saw a guy who played an awful lot with his hand in the dirt in a 3 point stance...an awful lot...very powerful player though...but i didn't see enough there to say to myself this guys a 34 olb convert...i guess i need to dig further for evidence
 
man...i seriously wonder if bruce irvin weighs 230 lbs...he looks awfully damn lean to me...explosive as hell...but lean
 
hooshoops said:
man...i seriously wonder if bruce irvin weighs 230 lbs...he looks awfully damn lean to me...explosive as hell...but lean
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Isn't that how Von Miller was this time last year?
 
Valandui said:
Isn't that how Von Miller was this time last year?
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hmmm...i don't recall...i know he was light but he was a 3 down player all the way at olb...irvins a situational player even in college...i don't think that changes in the pros...you put him on the field too much average downs and distances and teams will run downhill at him all day long...

i'm not sure he can carry 15 more lbs the right way and maintain his explosion and burst...maybe...not sure i see the frame though
 
hooshoops said:
hmmm...i don't recall...i know he was light but he was a 3 down player all the way at olb...irvins a situational player even in college...i don't think that changes in the pros...you put him on the field too much average downs and distances and teams will run downhill at him all day long...

i'm not sure he can carry 15 more lbs the right way and maintain his explosion and burst...maybe...not sure i see the frame though
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Would you take him as a situational pass rusher?
 
Valandui said:
Would you take him as a situational pass rusher?
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i think i would look at him in the 3rd round...i like his tools...i don't like that til the game got dirty score wise i saw him getting engulfed too much by the tackle...and the sack i did see him get the tackles footwork was horrendous...he came out of his kick slide and started running to try and catch up with irvin wide literally running and irvin just stopped and stepped back inside when he went by...easy money...don't see much hand usage don't see much polish...but the get off of the ball is nice and the explosion is rare...that said wouldn't surprise me if he took a little while to help you out even as a situational guy...might be one of those guys who gives you splash plays every once in a while but gets washed out a lot otherwise...

but you can't ignore the tools...they're there...and i want 10 more lbs on the kid and a promise to live in the weight room
 
just got done looking at the shrine bowl game...found a guy i'm interested in seeing more of who looks like he may make a solid situational pass rusher...the wilber kid from wake forest repeatedly showed me the best get off of the ball and gave ot matt reynolds who some seem to like and i'm kinda meh about fits...he beat him with quickness off the ball when reynolds or another tackle overcommitted with their first step to try and keep him off the wide edge he redirected back inside to the ball...they chipped him they doubled him he was relentless as a pass rusher...not strong enough at the poa to play every down at this stage imo not body beautiful but a very intriguing 3rd down pass rush specialist with a middle round pick i'd say...

lack of high end production the last 2 years 9.5 sacks both years combined bothers me given the get off of the ball that i saw though...and the tools
 
hooshoops said:
just got done looking at the shrine bowl game...found a guy i'm interested in seeing more of who looks like he may make a solid situational pass rusher...the wilber kid from wake forest repeatedly showed me the best get off of the ball and gave ot matt reynolds who some seem to like and i'm kinda meh about fits...he beat him with quickness off the ball when reynolds or another tackle overcommitted with their first step to try and keep him off the wide edge he redirected back inside to the ball...they chipped him they doubled him he was relentless as a pass rusher...not strong enough at the poa to play every down at this stage imo not body beautiful but a very intriguing 3rd down pass rush specialist with a middle round pick i'd say...

lack of high end production the last 2 years 9.5 sacks both years combined bothers me given the get off of the ball that i saw though...and the tools
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He's one of Slimm's Gems...

http://www.finheaven.com/forums/showthread.php?310933-Slimm-s-Gems
 
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