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Rumor: Fins Hoping to Reunite Tanny and Swope

I think swope is awesome! great fit ...knows the offense.
 
FinaticalOne said:
What's the problem, Swope is a bigger, stronger version of Wes Welker and Davone Bess with longer speed. He is an upgrade over Marlon Moore and Armon Binns. Grabbing Swope with our latter 3rd round pick would be ideal, but we may have to snatch him up with our early 3rd pick.

And don't worry, I'm sure we are going to either acquire one of the big FA Wrs (Jennings, Wallace, or Bowe) and/or draft a first-round talent WR; I'm hoping its Cordarelle Patterson, that guy is a PLAYMAKER and future stud in the NFL.

We currently have 7 WRs on our roster. Brian Hartline (if we re-sign him), Davone Bess, Armon Binns, Jeff Fuller, Rishard Matthews, Marlon Moore, and Brian Tyms.

This is what I would like to see on our roster look like after the FA/Draft for WRs:

Greg Jennings, Cordarelle Patterson, Davone Bess, Ryan Swope, Rishard Matthews, Jeff Fuller, Armon Binns (1st yr WR needs a longer look), and Brian Tyms (deep speed practice Squad WR). This unit not only improves our speed significantly but also mixes in some pretty good possession WRs.

If we do sign of the big FA WR, there is no need to re-sign Brian Hartline for $6 mil a year to be our #2 when Patterson would be more effective for less money. If we did re-sign Hartline, Patterson would take the job out right before October ends so it makes no sense to me. Don't get me wrong, I like Hartline, he plays hard but we need playmakers who score TDs, and once we sign a big FA WR, there is no need to speed more money on a #2 when we can grab a really good WR in the draft.
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Spot on analysis. And in such a scenario maybe if Tyms or one of Binns or Matthews or Swope stand out, we can see Bess traded before the season starts.
 
a true slot that runs a 4.5 is absolutely fast...i don't know that wes welker runs a 4.5 flat...and he's much smaller than swope who was measured at the combine at 6 ft and 206 lbs...that's a big darn slot...i don't think he's necessarily what green bay looks for that would seem to be more the quinton patton type to me wr but i do think that a slot is a big part of shermans offense and a big part of what we want to do going forward and if this kid runs a 4.5 flat at that size and with that production already on his resume a team that goes to a lot of 3 wr sets with a true slot should covet him...and i also think swopes the kind of team first guy and lockerroom influence that philbin would covet...

as for the "is that all" comment from walrus ha ha i knew that was coming...i get it austin offers the explosion plays and can get you in the endzone a variety of ways thus he's more coveted and in turn will come off the board first but for a bang for your buck draft pick if you employ a true slot wr in your offense i think swope will deliver and give you the return that validates the pick...and at 4.5 flat he would have the speed to do things down the seam in the slot against slot corners and with that height he'd also be a lot harder than most slots to overthrow

austins stock is also higher cause he's a return specialist...we don't need one of them...thigpen did that job just fine...i'll take the true slot with the great size who fits the o like a glove and has better wheels than we currently have at the position and be damn happy bout it

finally the jordy nelson ryan swope comparisons are WAY WAY off...they're not close to the same player...one wiins with his strength and his ability to go up and highpoint the football down the field and the other wins with his short area quickness and hips and his ability to cross a defenders face and separate...
 
tay0365 said:
Teal, I think Miami is going to be more aggressive as far as WR, then any year ever. Don't be surprised if Miami gets one of the big three in FA, then in the draft, ends up drafting 2 receivers within their 1st 5 picks (1st to 4th). Miami wants to be a top passing team in this offense, they needed young franchise QB ( I really believe they got one), they now need to fix their receivers, and don't be surprised, if within those 5 picks, it's 2 receivers, and a pass-catching TE.
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FinaticalOne said:
What's the problem, Swope is a bigger, stronger version of Wes Welker and Davone Bess with longer speed. He is an upgrade over Marlon Moore and Armon Binns. Grabbing Swope with our latter 3rd round pick would be ideal, but we may have to snatch him up with our early 3rd pick.

And don't worry, I'm sure we are going to either acquire one of the big FA Wrs (Jennings, Wallace, or Bowe) and/or draft a first-round talent WR; I'm hoping its Cordarelle Patterson, that guy is a PLAYMAKER and future stud in the NFL.

We currently have 7 WRs on our roster. Brian Hartline (if we re-sign him), Davone Bess, Armon Binns, Jeff Fuller, Rishard Matthews, Marlon Moore, and Brian Tyms.

This is what I would like to see on our roster look like after the FA/Draft for WRs:

Greg Jennings, Cordarelle Patterson, Davone Bess, Ryan Swope, Rishard Matthews, Jeff Fuller, Armon Binns (1st yr WR needs a longer look), and Brian Tyms (deep speed practice Squad WR). This unit not only improves our speed significantly but also mixes in some pretty good possession WRs.

If we do sign of the big FA WR, there is no need to re-sign Brian Hartline for $6 mil a year to be our #2 when Patterson would be more effective for less money. If we did re-sign Hartline, Patterson would take the job out right before October ends so it makes no sense to me. Don't get me wrong, I like Hartline, he plays hard but we need playmakers who score TDs, and once we sign a big FA WR, there is no need to speed more money on a #2 when we can grab a really good WR in the draft.
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I hear what you guys are saying. I stated before, I wasn't totally clear with what I had said. I said if we are able to bring in a top FA (Jennings) and draft another top WR (Stedman), then I am ok with it. What I'm not ok with is if they pass on better WRs to take Swope, or if they draft Swope and another receiver and call it a day. I do not believe this is what they will do, but should their plans change and either of those scenarios were to happen, it would be a letdown for me. I don't believe that in either of those scenarios, we end up coming out any better than we are now.

So I'll state my case again: If we sign a top WR and draft a top WR, then go with Swope, we did a fantastic job. If anything else happens aside from that, I do not believe it is a wise decision.
 
i love steadman bailey also and would be stoked with that but i don't view him as a win only option in the slot...he's got the feet and the deceptive speed to do damage on the boundary...so i view him as more versatile...love those feet...i'd take them both swope and bailey and be damn happy i pulled it off
 
I like Swope...but if it comes down to talent or being a buddy of Tannehill's...you have to go with talent first.
 
Truthfully I want us to either sign Jennings, draft Patterson at 12, DE with our first 2nd rounder, and land Austin with either our second 2nd rounder or first 3rd rounder.
Or sign Wallace, draft a DE at 12, re-sign Hartline "for 3mil", and then Austin with our second 2nd rounder. But we need two 4.4/4.3 guys from this offseason is all I know.
 
Never heard of him, then again I have very little time to watch college football.
 
hooshoops said:
a true slot that runs a 4.5 is absolutely fast...i don't know that wes welker runs a 4.5 flat...and he's much smaller than swope who was measured at the combine at 6 ft and 206 lbs...that's a big darn slot...i don't think he's necessarily what green bay looks for that would seem to be more the quinton patton type to me wr but i do think that a slot is a big part of shermans offense and a big part of what we want to do going forward and if this kid runs a 4.5 flat at that size and with that production already on his resume a team that goes to a lot of 3 wr sets with a true slot should covet him...and i also think swopes the kind of team first guy and lockerroom influence that philbin would covet...

as for the "is that all" comment from walrus ha ha i knew that was coming...i get it austin offers the explosion plays and can get you in the endzone a variety of ways thus he's more coveted and in turn will come off the board first but for a bang for your buck draft pick if you employ a true slot wr in your offense i think swope will deliver and give you the return that validates the pick...and at 4.5 flat he would have the speed to do things down the seam in the slot against slot corners and with that height he'd also be a lot harder than most slots to overthrow

austins stock is also higher cause he's a return specialist...we don't need one of them...thigpen did that job just fine...i'll take the true slot with the great size who fits the o like a glove and has better wheels than we currently have at the position and be damn happy bout it

finally the jordy nelson ryan swope comparisons are WAY WAY off...they're not close to the same player...one wiins with his strength and his ability to go up and highpoint the football down the field and the other wins with his short area quickness and hips and his ability to cross a defenders face and separate...
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Agree completely. But one is worth that high 2nd rd grade, while I will still wait til after the combine to give such a grade to someone like Swope.

Jordy Nelsons skill set, IMO, is far superior to that of a Ryan Swope.
 
It's simple:

Sign mike Wallace

Let hartline walk
Trade Bess

Cordarelle in 1st
Bailey in 2nd
Swopes in 3rd

Round that off with Matthews, and winner of Binn/fuller/tyms
 
madridfinfan said:
It's simple:

Sign mike Wallace

Let hartline walk
Trade Bess

Cordarelle in 1st
Bailey in 2nd
Swopes in 3rd

Round that off with Matthews, and winner of Binn/fuller/tyms
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Love that...real push to get the O moving with those moves...but it takes balls to do this, I don't think Irelands balls are big enough to pull that off.

Honestly - I wanted us to draft 2 WR's and one tight end, but Eifert and Ertz (sp?) don't really excite me, therefore, just give me a Jared Cook to go along with Fasano and Clay and I'm good.
 
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